Woah, Really Dumb.
Posted by Jeff Id on January 23, 2009
In the middle of the decade long cooling trend, you know the one which has buried the northern US in feet of snow, our illustrious scientists have determined that the recent ‘global warming’ is killing trees at twice the normal rate. This one got me off so a bit of Venting is in order for sure.
Scientists say global warming may be killing trees in West twice as fast as usual
For now, the percentage of trees dying each year is small, so doubling the rate means an increase of only 1 or 2 percent per year. But over time, small increases can add up, said Dr. Phillip van Mantgem, U.S. Geological Survey researcher and co-leader of the research team.
Ok, one or two percent per year. Are you seriously saying you can predict the trend is “global warming related” from this small variance. How about this interpretation. — Please give us money, we’re on your side. We love global warming.
“If current trends continue, forests will become sparser over time,” van Mantgem said. “Simple projections of forest stand structure indicate that average tree age will eventually decrease by half, and this will potentially lead to decreasing average tree size.”If current trends continue, forests will become sparser over time,” van Mantgem said. “Simple projections of forest stand structure indicate that average tree age will eventually decrease by half, and this will potentially lead to decreasing average tree size.”
Ok I’ll be translator in cheif.
IF current not really known but still assumed trends continue, forests will become sparser over both an instantaneous and very very long time. Projecting our already poorly known trend well beyond the point where it has any possilble meaning means that the average tree age will decrease by half.
GOAL! this guy makes the quote list. Good competition for Hansen simply because of the idiot scale.
The researchers considered a number of possible causes for rising death rates, including changes in forest density and increased air pollution. But because rising mortality rates were so widespread — found even in areas free of logging and air pollution, for instance — these causes seemed unlikely. Instead, regional climate change emerged as the most likely culprit. In the past few decades, average temperatures rose by more than 1 degree Fahrenheit, which researchers said could have a major affect on tree health.
Yup, I’m sure these researchers have perfectly even counts of the happy little baby treees, so 1 percent is well outside the confidence interval of the data. Clearly the lack of squirrel poop fertilizer isn’t the problem, ITS GLOBAL WARMING. Come on now. Does this guy take the lead in the contest category for most ridiculous claim of 2009? Hell if I was Hansen, I’d give up on even trying and go into a fit of depression.
Temperatures are indeed in flux. According to a separate study, published this week in Nature by UC Berkeley and other scientists, the hottest day of the year has shifted nearly two days earlier.
Not last year, and probably not this year either.
I’m going to go trephine my skull to let the pressure out.
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3 Responses to “Woah, Really Dumb.”
vivendi said
January 23, 2009 at 8:57 am
“average temperatures rose by more than 1 degree Fahrenheit”
Is this true? Is GISS data based on average temperatures, i.e. is it the “global” temperature the average of all local daily averages? I think not.
Do trees in any given forest sense global temperatures? If yes, are they sensing GISS, RSS, or UAH?
What exactly is it van Mantgem doesn’t understand?
WhyNot said
January 23, 2009 at 2:33 pm
I’m not the smartest guy on this planet, maybe I’m even in the lowest 10th percentile, but I was wondering is it possible to correlate the growth in stupidity and ignorance with global temperature change? Maybe correlate it to CO2 increases instead, it could be easier!?!?!? Upon completion, you could prove CO2 is a poison and breathing it causes neurological disorders with the primary symptom of irreversible degradation to IQ and the ability to reason! If only Ben Fraklin stores were still around I could buy a “Dr.” and get published…..
Hal said
January 23, 2009 at 3:54 pm
Hi Jeff
It looks like all the global warming quotes in the Mercury News article came from interviews with 2 of the authors. After quickly scanning the article itself, I couldn’t find any references to climate change.
These guys know that if they jump on the alarmist bandwagon they can get publicity, let’s face it, this bland and boring subject wouldn’t get any press on its own.
Their study is in a small area in the Sierras, they even gave the lat/long (118 35 W,36 35 N), one could look at nearby stations and see whether this guys quote can be substantiated:
“Rising temperatures have resulted in more of each year’s precipitation coming as rain rather than snow,” said Nathan Stephenson, a USGS ecologist and co-leader of the study.
On the other hand, who cares.
Hal
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