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To: Brumar89 who wrote (152875)	1/23/2009 1:35:47 PM
From: one_less	4 Recommendations Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 173976

To be accurate, Jefferson's draft of that quote started: We hold these truths to be sacred and undeniable: On counsel from Adams and Franklin he agreed 'self evident' might be easier for the Steve's of his day to digest.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (152875)	1/23/2009 3:23:46 PM
From: Steve Dietrich	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

A young child doesn't have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. A young child has the right to do what his/her parents tell them to do. You know that, right? That a child doesn't have the same constitutionally guaranteed civil rights as an adult? A fetus has even less rights than a child. Got it? Or were you kidding around? A little more Jefferson for you: To talk of immaterial existences is to talk of nothings. To say that the human soul, angels, god, are immaterial, is to say they are nothings, or that there is no god, no angels, no soul. I cannot reason otherwise: but I believe I am supported in my creed of materialism by Locke, Tracy, and Stewart. At what age of the Christian church this heresy of immaterialism, this masked atheism, crept in, I do not know. But heresy it certainly is. -Thomas Jefferson, letter to John Adams, Aug. 15, 1820 SD