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To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (113)1/27/2009 12:14:58 PM
From: LTK007  Respond to of 290
 
Continuing Bush policies in Israel and Afghanistan
Glenn Greenwald
Monday Jan. 26, 2009 07:02 EST
Continuing Bush policies in Israel and Afghanistan

By all accounts, the U.S. is suffering extreme economic woes. We continue to borrow trillions of dollars simply to prevent financial collapse. Our military resources are spread so thin that the establishment consensus view blames the failure of our seven-year (and counting) occupation of Afghanistan, at least in part, on the lack of necessary resources devoted to that occupation. And a significant (though not the only) reason why we are unable to extricate ourselves from the endless resource-draining and liberty-degrading involvement in Middle East conflicts is because our one-sided support for Israel ensures that we remain involved and makes ourselves the target of hatred around the world and, especially, in the Muslim world.

Despite all of that, the Bush administration, just days before it left office, entered into yet another new agreement with Israel pursuant to which the U.S. committed to use its resources to prevent guns and other weapons from entering Gaza. That agreement cites "the steadfast commitment of the United States to Israel's security" and "and to preserve and strengthen Israel's capability to deter and defend itself," and vows that the U.S. will "address the problem of the supply of arms and related materiel and weapons transfers and shipments to Hamas and other terrorist organizations in Gaza."

Speaking about that new U.S./Israeli agreement on her show late last week, MSNBC's Rachel Maddow (in the course of aggressively questioning an absurdly evasive Sen. Claire McCaskill on the wisdom of Obama's plans to escalate the war in Afghanistan and noting the cadre of Bush defense officials on whom Obama is relying -- video below) observed that the Obama administration has enthusiastically expressed its full support for the new Israeli agreement entered into in the last days of Bush's presidency. Maddow said (h/t Antiwar.com):

Also, not particularly change-like, then-President Bush made a deal in his final day in office with Israel about the terms of Israel's relationship with Gaza. I'm sorry - it wasn't his last day in office. It was within his last few days in office -- my mistake.

The U.S. under President Obama is bound by that last-minute agreement between the U.S. and Israel. And a statement from Press Secretary Robert Gibbs today says that President Obama supports the agreement fully.

That new agreement has already led the U.S. Navy last week to take risky and potential illegal actions in intercepting Iranian ships that were transporting arms. As The Jerusalem Post reported:

The interception of an Iranian arms ship by the US Navy in the Red Sea last week likely was conducted as a covert operation and is being played down by the US military due to the lack of a clear legal framework for such operations, an American expert on Iran told The Jerusalem Post on Saturday evening.

International media reported that an Iranian-owned merchant vessel flying a Cypriot flag was boarded early last week by US Navy personnel who discovered artillery shells on board.

The ship was initially suspected of being en route to delivering its cargo to smugglers in Sinai who would transfer the ammunition to Hamas in Gaza, but the US Navy became uncertain over the identity of the intended recipient since "Hamas is not known to use artillery," The Associated Press cited a defense official as saying. . . .

Prof. Raymond Tanter, president of the Washington-based Iran Policy Committee, said, "It is not surprising that the US Navy is reluctant to acknowledge the operation, which may have been covert," adding that maritime law posed challenges when it came to intercepting ships that fly the flag of a sovereign country. . . .

For the time being, the interceptions and searches are being carried out on the basis of the memorandum of understanding signed between Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and then-US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on January 16, which is "aimed at halting arms smuggling into Gaza as part of efforts to clinch the cease-fire," Tanter said.

The article quoted Emily Landau, director of the Arms Control and Regional Security Program at the Institute of National Security Studies at Tel Aviv University, as arguing that the risk of provoking a confrontation with Iran from such interceptions is low -- but not non-existent -- because "Iran is not looking for an armed confrontation [with the US Navy] at this point."

And Haaretz reports that preventing Palestinians in Gaza from re-arming itself is now -- for some reason -- an ongoing military operation of the United States:

A United States naval taskforce has been ordered to hunt down weapons ships sent by Iran to rearm its Islamist ally Hamas in Gaza, The Sunday Times reported.

Quoting U.S. diplomatic sources, the British daily said that Combined Task Force 151, which is countering pirates in the Gulf of Aden, has been instructed to track Iranian arms shipments.

There were several aspects of the Israeli attack on Gaza that made it even more horrifying than the standard atrocities of war: (1) the civilian population was trapped -- imprisoned -- in a tiny densely-populated strip and were unable to escape the brutal attacks; and (2) it was a completely one-sided war, because one side (Israel) is armed to teeth with the world's most sophisticated and deadly weapons, while the other side (the Palestinians) is virtually defenseless, possessing only the most primitive and (against a force like the IDF) impotent weapons.

What possible justification is there for the U.S. (as opposed to Israel) to use its military and the money of its taxpayers to ensure that the Palestinians remain defenseless? In exactly the way that the U.S. felt free to invade Iraq (with its decayed, sanctions-destroyed "military") but not North Korea or Iran (with its much more formidable forces), it's precisely because the conflict is so one-sided that Israel feels no real pressure to cease the activities that, in part, feed this conflict (beginning with still-expanding West Bank settlements and the truly inhumane blockade of Gaza).

Obviously, where one side has its foot on the throat of the other, the side with the far more dominant position has less incentive to resolve the dispute than the side being choked. And it's perfectly natural -- not just for Israel but in general -- for a party to want to maintain dominance over its adversaries and to want to prevent its enemies from obtaining weapons that can be used against it. It's entirely rational for Israel to desire a continuation of that particular state of affairs -- i.e., for only Israel, but not the enemies with whom it has intractable territorial and religious conflicts, to have a real military force.

But what does any of that have to do with the U.S. Navy and the American taxpayer? What possible justification is there for using American resources -- the American military -- to patrol the Red Sea in order to ensure that Gazans remain defenseless? That question is particularly pronounced given that the U.S. is already shoveling, and will continue to shovel, billions and billions of dollars to Israel in military and other aid. Why, on top of all of that, are increasingly scarce American resources, rather than Israeli resources, being used to bar Palestinians from obtaining weapons? And why -- as it is more vital than ever that we extricate ourselves from Middle Eastern conflicts -- are we making ourselves still more of a partisan and combatant in this most entrenched and religiously-driven territorial dispute over the West Bank and Gaza Strip?

Israel is hardly the only country which the U.S. expends vast resources -- including military resources -- to defend and protect, and all of those commitments ought to be seriously re-examined. But none of those other commitments entail anywhere near the costs -- on every level -- of our seemingly limitless willingness, eagerness, to involve ourselves so directly and self-destructively in every last conflict that Israel has. Given what we are constantly being told is the grave economic peril the U.S. faces, shouldn't we be moving in exactly the opposite direction than the imperial expansion which we continue to pursue?

* * * * *

The day after George H.W. Bush invaded Panama in one of the most absurd (though quite lethal) military operations of the last several decades ("Operation Just Cause"), The New York Times published an article by R.W. Apple on its front page celebrating Bush for having "shown his steel," proving he was "a man capable of bold action" who "carried a big stick." The article proclaimed:

For George Bush, the United States invasion of Panama early this morning constituted a Presidential initiation rite as well as an attempt to achieve specific goals. . . . For better or for worse, most American leaders since World War II have felt a need to demonstrate their willingness to shed blood to protect or advance what they construe as the national interest. . . . - all of them acted in the belief that the American political culture required them to show the world promptly that they carried big sticks.

With only a week in office, Barack Obama has already fulfilled this Presidential initiation rite, as his body count -- of civilians -- already easily exceeds the number of days he's been President. Last week, two Drone missile attacks struck Pakistani villages, killing numerous civilians (including children) and maybe -- though maybe not -- a couple of "Al Qaeda operatives." And as Obama prepares to escalate the war in Afghanistan, a U.S. attack on Saturday killed 16 Afghan civilians (according to the Afghan government), and it was reported that more than 4,000 Afghan civilians were killed in the last year alone. And read this harrowing account of what happened in an Afghan village several weeks ago during a U.S. raid and the effect this is all having on the attitudes of Afghan civilians towards the U.S. occupation (as is typically the case, the U.S. military denies the claims of the villagers).

Despite all of that, Joe Biden yesterday told us all to expect a rise in casualties. Questions of justifiability to the side for the moment, there is almost no discussion of what possible good will be achieved by escalating the seven-year war in Afghanistan (though the New York Times did run a thorough story on some of these questions over the weekend). As part of the above-referenced MSNBC segment, Rachel Maddow highlighted all of the right questions, pointed to a number of vital parallels between our occupation of that country and the Soviet Union's self-destructive attempt to control it, and tried -- with total futility -- to induce key Obama ally Sen. Claire McCaskill to address any of these questions in a meaningful way:

salon.com



To: Crimson Ghost who wrote (113)1/27/2009 1:56:39 PM
From: LTK0071 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 290
 
i just posted this elsewhere and it is NOT! addressed to you,CG:)

<<You hope, Vi.
Me, a hornets nest is a hornets is a hornets nest, and i still don't buy the Taliban and Al Queda is threat to civilization.No way.

i don't buy into "Be Afraid Be Very Afraid"

So some fly by their pants fanatics got VERY LUCKY on 9/11, and that has been used as an excuse for war war war ever since where we have about at least 10,000 murdered for every 1 they murdered here. ( and sense their numbers have grown because of the multitude of the utterly innocent will kill, and americans don't give a damn, as they're just FOREIGNERS of a religion we have chosen to damn and smear.

U.S./Israeli FP is still to take control of entire ME and Central Asia in an imperialist aggression for world power.

Iran, that has an extraordinary 5,000 year history, a country that has an educational system that is one of the best in the world.
The country where it's female Nobel Peace Prize reformist says just leave Iran ALONE, who says, if one american soldier sets foot in Iran they will go to war, because Iranians have PRIDE.

And yet it is still in is our and Israel's gunsights.

Why?? Because they are NOT us--the superior/chosen ones, we, a country that robbed the world and it's own citizenry, o, indeed, we are SO GOOD.

O Yes, The Noble America, THE GOOD.

Please ignore the several millions we have SLAUGHTERED since the 50s in the name of Democracy.Please please, ignore--truth is such an UGLY THING, isn't it?

Please ignore that Iran in a wholely free democratic election in 1953/54 elected to lead a Democracy a President that the good and righteous America deemed slightly LEFT leaning and thus via the CIA overthrew that election and installed A MONSTER, the Shah of Iran, who proceeded to erase millions of those wanting a democracy, but left the fundamentalist alone such that when a uprising came against THIS Hitlerian MONSTER( he was just better looking than Hitler) there was NO opposition left except the fundamentalist.
Study the history of The Shah of Iran, it is written in oceans of BLOOD.
Khomeini's wild sucess was because the Shah had slaughtered the majority of those that dared wish for a democracy.

How many americans know this history, at best, at best, 1%, and why is that, because we are lazy spoonfed bots that can't think for themselves.

In the kiiling fields we will create in our relentless war against the Big Bogeyman, only milions and millions will hate us more.
So talk to me again how this is A'O.K.

Talk to me about the glorious peace we bring to the world, talk to me of Glad Tidings and Joy.
Talk to me, about America/Israel--God's People!!!!!!!
Talk to me about the last Predator Drone you saw flying overhead, if you see one, say "Ah the creation of The Good, of America!!"

Indeed we are GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!! RUBBISH. Max, an individual that salutes no damned flag, and proud of it.>>