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To: gg cox who wrote (71054)	1/26/2009 3:26:58 PM
From: Maurice Winn	1 Recommendation Respond to of 74559

Now you are talking GG. Yes indeed, there is some constitutional work to be done to create a de novo "Nirvana". But you are missing an important issue = all countries are currently owned by somebody including their populations who are largely happy with being Stockholm Syndrome State Serf Chattels. Don't underestimate the importance of belongingness in the identity of people. The underlying aspects of Utopia [which is a better name than Nirvana really though I have used both] is free will, self-determination, private property, free enterprise, capitalism, individualism [I might have missed some out]. Many people do NOT like those things. Many people are so incapable and they know it, they LIKE being told what to do. A good friend, highly capable, recounted how he enjoyed his time in the army in Cyprus, getting up early, all activities ordered, no thinking required, no creative action, no responsibility, no consequences to anything [just stay out of trouble and do as told]. He said it was quite idyllic. There was no fighting or personal hazard because it was peace-keeping, meaning standing around being happy in the sun. marching around a bit, doing whatnot to keep the supplies going, maintaining uniforms etc. There is something to be said for mindlessness. Nearly all living things live quite happily in mindlessness. I too would like to hand a lot of my thinking over to Google when it's up to the task, so It can tell me what's the best thing to do next. But mindlessness carries severe limitations. Communities operating on mindlessness do NOT do well. They do very badly. You are right that hordes of people would want to buy into Utopia. That's why a place with low population, but really nice climate, with natural beauty, and seriously horribly poor would be a good place to start. The local yokels would own the citizenships and country and could live on the income from selling citizenships to foreigners wanting to buy in. They wouldn't need to work, but would probably prefer to to get even more money and become the richest people on Earth. Wealth is a very good thing to have as those who don't have it can attest. Those who have it don't all appreciate it and some go off the rails, but that's just nature doing the usual winnowing. People would only buy citizenships if they thought they would fit in to Utopia [being able to get the job they want, land etc ]. The great thing about Utopia is that if they change their mind, they can simply put their citizenship on the auction block along with all the others and get the market price. They would make a profit because Utopia would be improving for many decades and even centuries. Other countries would be free to copy/paste the Utopia constitution, so it's not that Utopia would need to take over everywhere else or that everyone would need to go to Utopia. You seem to have a megalomaniac bent. Similarly, Utopia could copy/paste where required from other constitutions, regulations, laws, orders in council and what have you. Of course many countries have done quite a lot right. That's why we don't all live in poverty in jungles, chasing food, fighting the neighbouring tribes. Regarding money, I'm in the process of inventing that too, Qi. The prototype is looking good. It is of course based on ethereal abstract values, not material objects like gold, silver, land or even productive assets like shares. Religion and other superstitious beliefs wouldn't be banned. There would be no laws about superstition, just about leaving other people and their property alone. There would be no laws about religion, golf, music, tennis, when to wake up and when to eat lunch. People will have to decide what they think themselves. Mqurice