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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (451056)	1/26/2009 2:32:31 PM
From: michael97123	Respond to of 1574493

thats where you go reactionary on me. You are looking at the 60s/70s and saying govt can do no good. I dont agree with that. In this crisis they need to act and be pushed in the right direction, not backwards to the past or to a socialist non-incentivized situation. However moving forward might mean nationalizing the banks or funding states who are broke in the face of high unemployment or crashed fin system. This is not 1980 and to get to the next good time, we need to experiment. cant go back to mom and pop but neither can you go back to 80s and 90s. Eyes ahead Ten. I know you get it. You just have to give up some of the old truths that are truths no longer. No more free enterprise rhetoric but actions to make free enterprise robust again and govt might be the vehicle. If someone told me four months ago that i was posting this, i would have told them they were crazy. But we have been betrayed by wall street, banks and deregulators that allowed derivatives and madofs to flourish. Time to fix,

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (451056)	1/26/2009 2:35:38 PM
From: bentway	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1574493

" It comes from the heart of every American, and there's nothing that government can do to spark that (though there's a lot government can do to suppress it)." Well, Ten, corporations have no heart, can potentially live forever, have the legal status of people, and have the single driving motivation of producing profits for their owners. Now, they don't HAVE to be evil, but, there's nothing to STOP them from being that way. They don't possess a conscience or morals. As you'll learn when Intel lays you off, it doesn't value you as a person - only as a removable, replaceable component. Other humans are just consumers of it's products that contribute to it's profitability, nothing more. The employees that serve it's goal of profitability are the only one's needed at any given time. The only check on corporations are other, competeing corporations and government. The employees that best internalize the inhuman motivations of the corporation are the one's that rise the highest within it.