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To: tejek who wrote (451837)	1/28/2009 1:00:57 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1573227

"Uh.....where do you think the American revolution got fought......in football stadiums?" mainly in fields, woods and forts

To: tejek who wrote (451837)	1/28/2009 5:58:17 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573227

Uh.....where do you think the American revolution got fought......in football stadiums? In fields, and woods, and valleys and hills. Usually not in cities. And when it was fought in cities, it wasn't (with a few small exceptions, mainly involving Indian/Native American allies) fought with either side deliberately targeting civilians, or with either side using civilians as human shields. The West Bank and Gaza were intended as the Arab half of the UN partition plan. Your response is like as if I said 1+1=2, and you said "no 2+2=4". My statement wasn't about the intentions in the 40s, but the facts on the ground pre 67. The West Bank was Jordanian territory, Gaza was Egyptian territory. Jordan and Egypt waged war against Israel, and they both lost territory in the wars. Either Jordan or Egypt, or both, could have created a Palestinian state, or at least Palestinian autonomous region(s) with the territory but they never did. They kept it for themselves until Israel took it from them after they waged war on Israel. Not true, but they have never had an effective standing army. That's total BS. The PLO/Fatah, and Hamas have had a standing army. People who are permanently employed as members of a military force. A militia/non-standing army is distinct from a standing army, not in terms of having worse equipment (even though they often do have worse equipment), but in terms of not being a permanent standing force. Also if you can't break away from the equipment idea, the PLO had tanks and other heavy equipment in Lebanon. Never anywhere near as many, or as good as Israel had (and importantly never anywhere near the training levels), but they had armor, it wasn't just "farmers and ranchers".