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To: TobagoJack who wrote (71060)	1/29/2009 1:51:30 AM
From: Maurice Winn	4 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

TJ, you are no doubt not allowed to find out and if you did and said what torture techniques China uses, you'd be "questioned" using said techniques. So it's as well that you prefer not to find out. It's much more fun and much safer to sneer at the USA than your China bosses, or Islam. People can throw a shoe at the President of the USA and survive [though being in Iraq apparently led to significant attacks on him later]. Try that in China, or Saddam's Iraq, or a LOT of other countries. Mqurice

To: TobagoJack who wrote (71060)	1/29/2009 2:29:40 PM
From: Maurice Winn	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 74559

TJ, as usual you leap to a conclusion, the wrong one, based on your primitive Aztec-style ideology: <automatically think that questioning involve physicals worse than waterboarding > We were discussing China, not what I think is a good way to interact with opponents, whether they are defeated or not, captive or not. I watched authorities in Tienanmen Square practising their Falung Gong stun kicks and physically disabling moves. They were not interested in life stories. Down a side street, I watched a boss cop guy shouting at a cringing young guy in uniform who was not being threatened with telling his life story [I understand enough Mandarin to know what was being said though I admit I didn't quite catch the calligraphy style which would be required in writing said life story]. Interesting little vignettes indicative of "how we do things around here". Some countries do have better techniques for handling disaffected people than do others. Writing a life story is indeed a very good idea. That you could at least come up with the idea shows you have evolved a little past your chimpoid antecedents. Comparing Britain and the USA for example, Britain used to capture murderous IRA terrorists holed up somewhere by the simple method of surrounding, calming things down, sending in lunch, having a chat, and after a few days said terrorist would come out and face the music. In the USA, the authorities regularly come in firing, blasting and terrifying with extreme violence and normally substantial death. For example David Koresh in Waco. To save the children, after days of blasting horrible noise at cornered people, they sent in a tank to poke a hole and fire tear gas bombs in, which can't have been good for the children and wasn't because they ended up dead. The authorities blame David and co for deliberately burning the place down. Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but if he did, that seems like a desperate move which a more relaxed approach would probably not have caused. Tim McVeigh responded in kind in Oklahoma bombing the ATF building. The British approach seems much more reasonable than the shoot 'em up response. If everyone sat down and had a nice cup of tea and wrote their life stories, things would come out much nicer. Perhaps China would like to invite Amnesty International to attend interrogations .. being keen to show the world their civilized nature. That would be a nice idea - evidence only valid if Amnesty International nominee is present and a video record is made. China could really show off to the world how civilized they are. Trials and executions take place so quickly in China there isn't time for life stories, which are all too often, harsh, brutal and short; especially for those trying to escape over the mountains from Tibet - making good target practise for the authorities who are not averse to shooting in the back, like East German border guards. Soldiers are much more courageous when shooting, beating and making unwritten life stories short for civilians they rule than when dealing with opposing soldiers over the border. Mqurice