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To: JohnM who wrote (102444)	1/29/2009 11:33:34 PM
From: Bread Upon The Water	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541747

I read the "Times" & WSJ daily. They are often at odds with one another. So I don't know how you can conclude what you did. That seems like a lot of extrapolation to me. But I thought your main complaint was that I dismissed their editorial as "twaddle". OK--substitute opinion for twaddle and there you have it. Just take the third paragraph of their Editorial--that begins " Aid to the states is also well thought out..." And then they prattle on how about the 87 billion dollar relief that is going to flow. That's their opinion, but I think it's crape. There's no discussion of where the money is going to come from or how is going to be paid for and whether the states will forever become dependent on handouts from the Fed or why we should even be doing this. In that entire paragraph is a litany of things I find wrong with the Times approach--or at least your contention that it is worth discussing. Granted it's and Editorial and not a scholarly document, but how you can argue with something that just draws conclusions? I am as much as entitled as they are to have an opinion back--which also is twaddle. What is needed is intellectual enlightenment as to the underlying complexity of it all. If you and I debated it we would have to be prepared to go into this complexity. Do you want to go there?

To: JohnM who wrote (102444)	1/30/2009 1:12:58 AM
From: Bread Upon The Water	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541747

After further reflection, I wish to withdraw the offer to go into the "complexities" of the "Times" editorial. I grew up 20 miles from NYC and have built in bias about both NYC and its people. So while you may read the "Times" with a fresh perspective mine is "shaped" to begin with, and I don't think discussing this would yield anything fruitful. To the extent that I know anything about any issue they (the Times) brings up I'll feel free to weigh in there.