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To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (102493)1/30/2009 3:23:35 PM
From: JohnM  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541735
 
Odd contradiction in your post, V. You assert that the Times editorial was without "substantive reasoning" but then I had provided, whoops, I see a bit more condescension, missed that, I had "tried to provide"

The contradiction, of course, is that my "some" came from the editorial, the notion that the structure of the stimulus bill tried to provide for sequenced economic pops.

As for separating unemployment insurance from the other parts of the stimulus package and, I gather, being in opposition because they are put together, means you've let yourself get caught in the trap of the "perfect as the enemy of the good."

Unemployment insurance is stimulative. Folk spend the money and it goes into the multiplier bit. I've seen arguments, ones which make a lot of sense, that it's more stimulative than tax cuts, some portions of which go into savings.

Tax cuts for the wealthy, which is one of the big items for the House Reps, are certainly far less stimulative than unemployment benefits.



To: Bread Upon The Water who wrote (102493)1/31/2009 4:22:39 PM
From: Cogito  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 541735
 
>>If we want to become Sweden, or something like it, we (the country) should talk about it.<<

Vinter -

We could do a lot worse. Sweden isn't perfect, but it's a lovely country, with a very high standard of living, excellent healthcare that nobody goes without, and freedom from involvement in wars.

They have greater freedom than many Americans have, in fact, since homosexuals can legally marry there.

I hope we do have the debate, and that we become more like Sweden in some ways.

- Allen