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To: Proud Deplorable who wrote (144614)1/31/2009 2:19:31 AM
From: marcos7 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 312982
 
Right, well, i'm sure you'll be missed very much, arrogant morons from LA being so highly regarded there



To: Proud Deplorable who wrote (144614)2/4/2009 1:43:16 AM
From: E. Charters1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 312982
 
What turns you off about the country?

You have to realize this is a politically sensitive thread, ralphie. When you talk about people, places and things, think armed mob of drunken extremists with a grudge.

I know you like to bait people. No make that kick them upside the ass and run like hell. Don't stop. Did you notice the 29 cons on the last complain post? Really. It seems that you got all the grudgers out.

Now we won't tell them that you are really a shepardic jew descended from spanish people will we? (I don't know that, but I figure it could be.) That would confused the hell out them. What the hell has that got to do with it, Marcos will ask. But I did not think you were looking for excuses, just honesty. If you were sitting around the table quaffing cold ones and said that, well that remark would not even get honourable mention. We can do better than that. Without holding it against anybody at all of the human race. I don't know how many times I have heard worse and had no reason to doubt the sayer's ancestry or the level of his enlightenment about people from other lands.

Now you know very well that Mexico is a nice, safe country full of friendly outgoing people who are very understanding of foreigners and outsiders. Everywhere you go in fact people are falling all over you to help you. Naturally believing you are rich and they are poor, they would like a little help.

7 Canadian Geologist left their bodies in Mexico over the last 15 years. It is not the safest place in all the world. I know a fellow who looks mexican but is of another origin. He did mining exploration there off and on for 20 years. He went into the hinterland with a few revolvers and some people with winchesters who knew how to use them. He was a realist. On the other hand I geo I sometimes employ who found a mine in honduras for a promo on this thread about 12 years ago, travels there often, has haunts near Sonora, and can travel there with impunity he tells me. Another guy bought a property down there, and paid the fees for one year with a cheque to a government official in an government office, and got a receipt after filling out the appropriate form in Spanish with a paid translator/expert. The cheque was cashed. The claims were thrown open for a person who lived in the area. The government official swears the person never filled the form, never gave the cheque. This was 2003.

I could say this diplomatically. The corruption down there is rife and petty and of a different nature than here. Ours we could say is more subtle. If I put up a cheque to the government I would expect it to be cashed and the claims not to lapse even if I spoke only Hungarian to them.. If they wanted to beat me (they have) they would play a much more subtle game. Who beat our friend? The translator? or the government official. If you did not know one word of spanish, the conversation could have gone something like this and you would never know it. Say, Jose, this man wants to pay up the fees that the previous owner did not pay, and he wants the claims to lapse after six months, as he is doing a redirectionado for purposes of transfer and dispudado of his own overstaking. So as not to prevent anybody else from suing him. Ok? Sure Jaun, it makes sense to me. Senor, place you hand on this bible.

BTW this was a "common" technique used by some people, the lapse restake and dispute in order to fake out previous owners, or potential disputers here in old ontario. Nobody sues anyone with someone already suing them for the same thing. Who do you sue? And when it settled the subsequent courts are loath to take another suit as it looks copy cat. Neat huh? So play verso au and beat the guy in a foreign languages.

If you think your performance with Anderson was over the top, and I am sure it was, then consider this one. A guy who had aspirations of being a first rate diamonds explorationist, (he cound the second group of diamonds in core in situ in Canada) went to introduce me to a guy named boyd who ran Ashton Canada. This was brownie points as he knew me to be very knowledgable person in diamond exploration etc.. so he waltzes me up to boyd at the pdac and says mr charters meet the president of ashton etc.. so I shook hands with him, smiling broadly and said I always wanted to shake hands with someone who ran the crookedest company in the entire planet. Boyd did not even freeze. My friend did however. Ashton had ripped me off thru a subsidiary company for the ground around the De Beers Victor diamond mine in concert with some filth from the slime pit. I figure by now it has cost me 10 million or more in opportunity. I wish I had checked with australian prospectors who could have set me straight. Show your ash to Ashton. Well in retrospect was it the right thing to do? Boyd had nothing to do with it. My friend had an in with him. If there was a way to set the record straight somehow, what I did would not be the way I did it. I set nothing right. I did it well, wrong.

The only stupider thing I ever did was when I was in mining school. Let me start out by saying that it took me 30 years to realize this collosal blunder. I have to admit it has taken me all this time to figure out I am not that bright. I used to drink a lot at place called the Tri-Town INn. By drink a lot I mean I drank and drank and drank. And drank. Every nite. 20 beer. Was I an alcoholic? I will let you be the judge. But it was not alcohol that fueled this gradual blunder. It was sheer stupidity. I drank at the time with a somewhat more sober person, who was a local poet. He was good. Better than Robert Service. Never published but on the level with an Ogden Nash in Rhyme and perhaps a Kipling for content etc.. not quite Auden or Yeats, but fair. I listened to his poems every night etc.. while I drank and listened as well to rock and roll. A man for all seasons. Never barfed once. So one day while quaffing I noted that while he was middle aged he did not work. No, he said he lived with his family at home. Was his father alive. No, dead. He took care of this mother. How long had he done that. About 20 years he said. Well what did his family do? They owned a silver mine, just a small one. South of town. What sort of mine? Well it was small. A headframe, small mill, etc.. He used to work it on weekends with his dad. They didn't make much he said. He said he often longed to restart it. Why not? Well some locals had gone out there one day and burnt the mill and head frame down. It was made of wood. Destroyed and vandalized lots else. How much was lost? He figured about that time, 1968 maybe $2 million. So how was the ore? He said it wasn't bad grade. Vein was 6 inches wide. I was not as rich as some Cobalt ore, perhaps 300 ounces to the ton. Now in those days that came to $450.00 to the ton. Was there much left? It could be 1000 feet long. He didn't know. It had to be drilled. The vein ended at the diabase he figured, or it could continue. That was 1600 feet down. Big work I concluded.

The mistake?

I never pursued it. Never thought about it. Never followed it up. The penny never dropped. For decades. The door was wide open and I could no see it for looking. The clue was he had not worked for 20 years but was not hurting. I was slow about those sort of clues back then. Never gave it a moment's thought.

The penny has dropped since. Like a 1000 lb silver brick. Right on the angry toe of my retrospection.

I wonder how many other chances I missed. All of them I expect.

Another one was about a mine a guy told me about that he used to superintend. He had not worked for 33 years. He worked the mine for 5 years. It ended in 1945. I met him in 1978. He owned a boat, a cottage, nice place. I specifically asked him if he worked. He said no, retired. He looked to be in his 70's. I asked him about the mine. He said one ounce per ton. I averred I had looked that up and government records showed it as 1/2 ounce per ton. He said, "We sold most of the gold in the states. A speedboat took it on the lake across the border. It ended because of the war, and lack of men and materials."

So why did he never go back? Price of gold, different atmosphere, more government and he did not need to go thru all that.

I figure that one out, right there and then. Big story. If you are listening and hearing. I tried on that one but was defeated by people who did not realize or want to believe what you could not tell them was a mountain that sat outside there doorstep. An invisible mountain.

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