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To: Real Man who wrote (17042)	1/31/2009 12:21:48 PM
From: RockyBalboa	1 Recommendation Respond to of 71454

Bonuses: "a doorman´s tip" , just tried the AFL CIO webpage: (using a token median compensation as input) How You Compare to Your CEO Richard S. Fuld's compensation could support 687 workers earning your salary, using the SEC Total. Richard S. Fuld's compensation could support 441 workers earning your salary, using the AFL-CIO Total. You would have to work 687 years to equal Richard S. Fuld's 2007 compensation, using the SEC Total. You would have to work 441 years, according to the AFL-CIO Total. And here, some trite about this years Citibank bonuses, "a doorman´s tip" Message 25373292 ------------------------------------------------------ * The AFL-CIO Total is calculated as originally proposed by the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) in its initial 2006 rule making on executive compensation disclosure. On Dec. 22, 2006, the SEC amended the disclosure rules for stock options and other equity awards. Under this change, companies are required only to include the value of equity awards that vest during the fiscal year instead of the full value that are granted to executives. The SEC Total follows the approach used by the Financial Accounting Standards Board in determining the amount of options to be expensed in a company's financial statements. In order to show the full value of equity awards granted to executives, the AFL-CIO Total includes the Grant Date Fair Value of Stock and Options Awards as found in the Grants of Plan-Based Awards table of the company's proxy statement. The AFL-CIO believes this total calculation better represents the full value of compensation awarded to executives as decided by the board of directors during the fiscal year in question. The AFL-CIO Total follows the method the SEC has historically used in disclosing options granted to executives. ** Data courtesy of AFL-CIO, America´s Union Movement

To: Real Man who wrote (17042)	1/31/2009 3:24:53 PM
From: ggersh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71454

"The fact that 2 Trillion Lehman stuff resulted in payment of 5 billion is encouraging, the fact that it collapsed the markets is not." JPM has somewhere in the neighborhood of $98 Tril, BOA second with $39 tril. and so on and so on, so if Lehman was the guinea pig in all this maybe the picture is worse than you think. I for one don't have a clue as to how badly priced and what the losses are. But let them FAIL, it would be much easier to live with the consequences then.