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To: Rambi who wrote (102617)	1/31/2009 1:52:00 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541922

That column sounds like a lot of what I have been hearing; everyone knows what's wrong with the bill but there is no consensus anywhere on what the bill should have been, none large enough to pass anything. So we are back in the era when those that can't do complain about those who can, and little else. I skimmed Noonan's column a couple of times for her definition of what was really needed. All I found was not this, not that, not not not. Since Obama is getting sniped at from the right and the left on this one, he may just be right. One thing is certain - no one knows for certain right now, just lots of opinions.

To: Rambi who wrote (102617)	1/31/2009 2:08:11 PM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541922

On the Noonan column, I think she's guilty of the same sin I'm accusing Steve of (sorry about that preposition there since I know you care about such), of the perfect as the enemy of the good. You can't leap in one large or small step from the most partisan congress in any of our lifetimes to pristine good government. It takes lots of time. Why not write a piece about, given the current state of affairs, what was possible.

To: Rambi who wrote (102617)	2/1/2009 8:15:49 AM
From: Tom Clarke	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541922

what is happening in Washington I think Nadine nailed it >>Who is in charge of the Democratic party right now? Who calls the shots? Results so far say Nancy Pelosi, and that's bad news for the Dems as well as Obama, because she is ultra liberal, power mad and dumb as a sack of rocks, imo. Only a matter of time before the political center of both parties says, whoa, where the heck is she going with all this? When they say that, they will look to President Obama to establish order. If he pretends not to notice, they may draw the conclusion that he does not establish order because he cannot. Now maybe President Obama will surprise me yet. But so far I see him taking a political win on the cheap by going along to get along. His original talk of 60% stimulus and 40% tax cuts, what happened to that? Nancy Pelosi happened to it, that's what. Message 25374253