<<WOW! I kinda come at it another way: We are all here to till the earth's soil for a fixed and short period of time and to nurture our garden and other earth dependants.>>
i do not see the garden as kind.
i only need see one animal die in pain, be it rabbit or human, and i ask what are we nurturing really???
Who are we working for???
i am a dedicated gardening btw, where i live the people sort of look forward to my garden each year.
One year i was quite ill and my garden went to weeds and people i never knew stopped at my house to ask why i was not gardening.
i write that to say i make of life what i can, but i never lose sight that at times , every second of the day something is screaming, screaming in pain.
i myself know what it is to carry immense physical pain for a long time.
But i am innately an upbeat personality(so was Vonnegut), i like to clown and have people laugh.
But i MUST look at life honestly , i must know a vast amount of people at all times thru modern history, their primary worry is will they have enough food to feed themselves and their family that day or the next. They have no time to think about what i think about, they are just fighting to survive.
If i am not with them i must with empath spirit know they are real AT ALL TIMES, and i am not one twit of more importance then them.
We can have joy at seeing a child's delight, but need realize that child could well live a tragic life.
So i go to Vonnegut again in his last thoughts, as he was giving his final report, so to speak, i his last little chat the diary like "Man Without a Country" is really, and in which he has a drawing of a gravestone bearing the epitaph that he states he wants on his grave. "Life Is No Way To Treat An Animal".
But Vonnegut, as a POW, knew what it was to have to be part of the work forth to remove an estimated 200,000 human carcasses from Dresden.
For weeks and weeks he worked retrieving the dead and moving them to be burned in huge piles of flesh, babies, teenagers, mamas, spinsters, papas , just a giant pile of flessh burning.
He lived with the stench of death day after day after day.
And was later coming to KNOWING The British and U.S. airforce did this as JUST an experiment to test whether the idea of massive massive dropping of incendiaries would create a FIRESTORM of absolute horror , a killing storm.
Much to Churchills and Trumans and Curtis Lemay's delight, it was a smashing success, and the green light was given to FireStorm Japan.
900,000 died in those FireStorms and that was BEFORE Hiroshima.
So, like Vonnegut, i have a rather different view of life than you.
Vonnegut said in "the Good War" we entered innocent but came out being no better than our enemy.(He points his finger directly at the Airforce)
Woody Allen said i am a very sad man with gift for comedy.
He also said, as he looks at life HONESTLY, looking at all the pain of it, he feels we have been born into a concentration camp.
Why be thankful for life when for many, when the time comes, death is a gift the suffering are PRAYING for to release them, to release from what has become hell.
How many of the U.S. middle class spend their life AVOIDING these matters, and why do they avoid them???????????
and i ask you, if you really look deep into this thing life, like hard and honestly, could you PROVE the rightness of your view <<I kinda come at it another way: We are all here to till the earth's soil for a fixed and short period of time and to nurture our garden and other earth dependants.>>
i am an authentic iconoclast, but in what way???
i am on the one hand it appears but painting a darkly nihilistic, atheistic picture, but i am NOT an atheist.
What the hell does that mean???????????!!! LOL!
A yakety-yak i made elsewhere to explain i why am profoundly spiritual.
i quote myself again:)
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Regards Punk Philosophy: Punk Philosophy holds we are born into BS and we reject the Pollyana BS that this is a good place .
So we stoically do the work bit, the ball and chain, putting in our bloody 'ell time.But damned if we are such brainwashed bots to romanticize it.
Underlying to punk philosophy is Buddhism.
i feel being demanded to get on your knees to thank a creator is some horrid EGO-TRIP that likely feeds off subservient devotion
But like a Buddhist, i do believe in other worlds, but this one must be the Basement.
i rather be nothing, utterly annihilated on death rather than fart around in this Carbon-Based Biologic Machine. This skin wrapped around a mix on waste material and living cells, where my intestines are but a colony for benign E.Coli, and where 6 kinds of bacteria live on everybodies inner elbow NO matter the washing---yup, adapted to live their life on the inner elbow of humans.
i have NO problem with atheists, i can see their point of view, but i do have beliefs of much other than this----but that is another story.
i just don't want people to think my view is rooted in atheism, as i was a militant atheist until something happened 48 years ago--what that was is my business.i never speak it.
Live like you will live forever,live like you will die tomorrow.
O yes, i think the REAL JESUS was a totally COOL GUY that has nothing in common with CRW assholes that preach Jesus---if Jesus was alive today he would tell them to all go "Fu-- Off!".
Too bad organized religion got their hands on him and created there OWN Jesus.
i could cry for Jesus thinking of the horror the human theological AUTHORITIES have shamelessly done in his name.(Jesus defied all authority, and especially the religious authorities)
Perhaps my darkest view of mankind is how it succeeded in destroying the real jesus, as humanity when organized in power groups of "authority" can turn every good idea to something horrid.
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i ask now, right now, where is humanity headed?
Ever been in car on a steep hill where at night on a rode you never traveled and you see your headlights show a huge concrete wall with , i big yellow letters on black paint is written "DEAD END", and then gone to hit your brake and the brake goes to floor, busted brakes???
Well i have, and i immediately pulled the emergency brake as hard as i could, and the wheels locked and the car spun, and the rear end hit the the wall, busted tail lights, and bumper dented(this is when they made REAL BUMPERS--this was a 1951 Ford and i , and the two blokes with, were able to laugh out loud, and "Whew!! that was close!!!" )
Where is humanity headed now, to be buried, wiped out in a DEAD END wall, or "LOL! Whew that was close!!"
i take the strong position of to not PRESUME it ends as "Whew, that was CLOSE"
And are we missing something all together, the New Cosmology says we are ONLY 4% of everthing.
That is what we think constitutes EVERTHING(Elemental Mass),which we now know is actually ONLY 4% of what actually is.
As you read this you are right NOW where you are within something else, and i am not talking AIR.
i talk too much:) Have a good day, and yes, i am already planning my garden for this year:)Max
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