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To: epicure who wrote (102775)2/2/2009 12:33:09 AM
From: epicure  Respond to of 542149
 
This seems more in line with the way I see it:

americandaily.com

I think Paleocons- perhaps folks like you- exaggerate the Neocon support for the welfare state.



To: epicure who wrote (102775)2/2/2009 12:43:08 AM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542149
 
"Better" in that case meant more likely to work towards strengthening the culture as seen by Kristol, rather than harming it.

Neoconservatives, where like the religious right, in that the focused on cultural conservatism, but overall they where not quite as focused on religion, certainly less focused on proselytizing, (but they cared about certain values, often values connected to religion, and Kristol wrote negative things about secular humanism, such as "Secular humanism is brain dead even as its heart continues to pump energy into all of our institutions.")

Their support for foreign intervention grew out of their strong anti-communism. They supported interventions against communism. Modern aggressive foreign policy from factions of conservatives is less clearly "neo-con", but its gets that label from many.



To: epicure who wrote (102775)2/2/2009 10:39:44 AM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 542149
 
What alarmingly awful people.

Aw, c'mon. Can't you think that tolerance/acceptance of the welfare state by neocons is a glass half full? It may fall short of advocacy but it's not opposition.

"The perfect is the enemy of the good."