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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (153905)	2/5/2009 7:34:24 AM
From: JeffA	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

The Bible does condone genocide. I, on the other hand, can say without reservation, without exception that genocide is always immoral and always wrong. You cannot. Your philosophy, morally speaking, is inferior. So you are more moral than God?! LMAO!! Dude you have ISSUES

To: Steve Dietrich who wrote (153905)	2/5/2009 2:18:05 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

The Bible relates that God once both commanded it and committed it at specific times in the past. You've got your facts wrong. According to the Bible, God ordered Joshua to commit genocide. Several hundred years later God ordered Samuel to commit another genocide. And not just one nation was ordered exterminated, there were seven. That doesn't conflict with what I said. It doesn't mean genocide is condoned in other times, like the present or future. BTW it was Saul that was so ordered, not Samuel. Christians throughout history have used I Samuel 15 to justify their own genocidal rampages. You mean Christians have mis-used that passage. Humans have committed genocide against other groups through-out history. They don't need a Scriptural reference to misuse to do so. The Puritans, Taborites, Catholics, and whoever would have done the same even if the Bible didn't exist. In fact, they might have been even more brutal as pagans if we go by the examples of the Mongols, Romans, or the Communists of the past century. The Bible does condone genocide. The problem is with the tense you use. "Condone" is incorrect. I, on the other hand, can say without reservation, without exception that genocide is always immoral and always wrong. You cannot. Sure I can. Your philosophy, morally speaking, is inferior. Thats your opinion based on your own moral judgement which, in my view, is based on liberal faddery. You should be careful about condemning genocide. I think liberals already preparing to justify the genocidal destruction of Israel in the future just as they've come to justify terrorism against Israel in the past. Then you're claiming condoning genocide isn't evil. I don't think you're evil for condoning Biblical genocide. I just think you're morally screwed up. Also, just because you're morally screwed up doesn't mean Christianity is morally screwed up. Not all Christians teach and believe what you believe about genocide. And I think, as I've said that your moral judgment is based strictly on liberal faddishness and is therefore confused and "screwed up". As for "not all Christians", I would doubt that a person who shares your contempt for the Bible and basic Christian doctrines could be a Christian. I did show you that Hamas and Hezbollah have genocidal programs I categorically condemn any person or group that calls for the destruction of Israel or the extermination of Jews. But you claimed some who post here do just that. I've never seen it, and you don't seem to be able to show me any examples. How can you expect me to condemn a post you can't even show exists? Doesn't that seem a little unreasonable and dishonest on your part? No, I said earlier that people who take the side of an expressly genocidal groups like Hamas and Hezbollah against their intended victim can be presumed to condone those groups goal. That is perfectly reasonable. I'd think a morally sensitive person such as you claim to be would be more sensitive to calls for genocide in the present than things that happened thousands of years ago. Yet here you are throwing up things from thousands of years ago to me - where are your posts to the folks taking Hamas and Hezbollah's side in current conflicts?