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To: Steve Lokness who wrote (103336)	2/6/2009 11:46:29 AM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542019

I never said free reign to govern or move way left, those are your words. My post to John about Obama not using his mandate to run everyone over is more on point. But as long as politics is about a stale left-right debate, it will go nowhere. My guess is Obama will pull off something in the middle that will leave the screamers and howlers stuck by the side of the road while the real show passes them by. FWIW, the term is "charismatic".

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (103336)	2/6/2009 12:00:49 PM
From: Paul Kern	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542019

Bush owns the start of the recession, but democrats who are in charge of the stimulus plan own the recovery. Might not be fair - but when is politics ever fair? And the Republicans will do all they can to make him fail even if it means taking the country down with him.

To: Steve Lokness who wrote (103336)	2/6/2009 12:18:07 PM
From: JohnM	Respond to of 542019

1 in 26 and that's a mandate to move way left? Steve, if you look at the overall stimulus package, it's quite a distance from "way left." A mix of tax cuts and stimulus spending, shared with some safety net stuff that is also stimulus, and will get spent quickly. I haven't seen any item in the package that could be deemed "way left". I'm not certain that such may not be there but everything mentioned is mainstream stuff, including supporting state financing of medicaid. One might argue that should have been in a budget proposal rather than a stimulus package. I disagree with that argument but it should be noted that state payments for medicaid are long standing, centrist things. To give an illustration, nothing in this package gets us one step closer to a single payer system in health care. Which is where we should go. Only one illustration.