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To: i-node who wrote (455594)	2/11/2009 12:11:13 AM
From: Nicholas Thompson	3 Recommendations Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1575173

And which group got us into this terrible mess? Gee; was i mistaken to think it was the GOP and its supply side bs combined with see no evil.

To: i-node who wrote (455594)	2/11/2009 8:17:12 AM
From: combjelly	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1575173

"What we DO know is that between 3 and 5 billions are allocated to ACORN. How is that a "real" project?" Per usual, you are making this up. You can't point to where in the bill this is allocated because it isn't there. "What we DO know is that it contains INSANE demands on the health care system " What "insane" demands? "Both versions of the bill include BILLIONS for unemployment benefits, food stamps, free health care" Yes. There are always provisions for helping the unemployed when the economy sours. What it the problem with this? This is just your usual fear-mongering. When you aren't just making shit up.

To: i-node who wrote (455594)	2/11/2009 5:33:19 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1575173

The fact is that YOU HAVE NO IDEA how this money is going to be spent because the bill does not contain specifics. Generally, it contains broad allocations with overly broad authority for Obama to do as he sees fit. True it does allocate to broad areas like infrastructure. Part of the reason for that is because the feds won't come up with the projects but rather the states and local municupalities. In fact, its a grassroots allocation.....probably the best way to do it. What we DO know is that between 3 and 5 billions are allocated to ACORN. How is that a "real" project? "ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, is a community-based organization that advocates for low- and moderate-income families by working on neighborhood safety, voter registration, health care, affordable housing, and other social issues. ACORN has over 350,000 members and more than 850 neighborhood chapters in over 100 cities across the United States, as well as in Argentina, Canada, Mexico, and Peru. ACORN was founded in 1970 by Wade Rathke and Gary Delgado.[1] Maude Hurd has been National President of ACORN since 1990. ACORN's priorities have included: better housing and wages for the poor, more community development investment from banks and governments, and better public schools.[2] ACORN pursues these goals through demonstration, negotiation, legislation, and voter participation.[2] ACORN is made up of several legally distinct parts including local non-profits, a national lobbying organization and the ACORN Housing Corporation.[3] ACORN is a non-partisan organization. However, it often advocates for policies championed by liberals. This political alignment sometimes makes ACORN the subject of partisan conflict." en.wikipedia.org Both versions of the bill include BILLIONS for unemployment benefits, food stamps, free health care as well as long-term projects that will have no positive effect on the economy for years. Of course, that's wrong and you know it.