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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: gg cox who wrote (6043)	2/11/2009 8:23:04 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

but not health care...that costs 12 grand a year for a family of 4 if you can afford it The typical family of four doesn't spend 12 grand a year on health care. Nearly all adults pay some form of tax that go to government coffers that support government programs. Working adults unusually pay payroll taxes for the entitlement programs, but a very significant fraction, approaching 50 percent, don't pay net income taxes. Your links don't address that issue very well. The Google Answers link contains information about the number of filers, not payers, and certainly not net payers. The Wikipedia link has a lot more information, but doesn't directly deal with the point about many people not being net payers of income tax.

To: gg cox who wrote (6043)	2/12/2009 10:27:32 AM
From: Lane3	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

That is so in most countries, because children, homeless, jobless, destitute, many elderly. do not pay income tax.(would that be 50 percent?? 60 percent?? of population not paying ...i don't know ...maybe? Regardless of the number, we agree that there half or more free riders in a system of universal care paid out of general revenues. That's a lot of free riders. It's a whole lot more free riders than those defaulting on their medical bills. No comment on <<it is called having a heart>> I see, lol. I didn't comment on it because I didn't understand the sentence. It appears to be two unrelated sentences run together. The best I can figure is that the people at the bottom have a heart as they change their position, which makes no sense. I would have characterized that more as their being ambitious or responsible. Maybe you're saying that it takes a lot of heart to work to improve one's lot? "The ones on the bottom of the ladder get a break, and with full coverage, while they try to change their position, it is called having a heart." but not health care...that costs 12 grand a year for a family of 4 if you can afford it, or have a job that pays for it. Health care doesn't cost 12 grand a year for a family of four. I doubt most young couples with two kids incur bills exceeding a thousand dollars, maybe two. An annual PAP test for mom, a couple of earaches and a cut knee for the kids, nothing for dad. Not big bucks unless there's some kind of catastrophe.