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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: John Koligman who wrote (6086)2/12/2009 12:59:19 PM
From: Lane3  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 42652
 
Because the current system hasn't worked and healthcare IMO should be a right...

No argument on your first point.

With regard to the second, though, can you provide a rationale for that position? I know that some people hold that view but I've never heard anyone offer a cohesive rationale for it nor can I imagine one.



To: John Koligman who wrote (6086)2/12/2009 1:01:38 PM
From: TimF  Respond to of 42652
 
"The system hasn't worked" is a bit too much of an absolute. Arguably the system hasn't worked extremely well, or as well as in some other places, or as well as it could, but even if we accept one or more of those points, it doesn't necessarily mean that after massive changes things would be better, or that the specific massive change we should go for is to remove profit.

Even going all the way to "removing profit from health care insurance will make the system work better" (a highly questionable assumption IMO, but I'll go with it for the rest of this post), wouldn't make removing profit the goal, but rather a means to a goal. It it was the goal, that would mean you want it for itself, perhaps even if it made the system work much worse.

and healthcare IMO should be a right...

I strongly object to that idea, or the idea that any requirement that someone must do something for you, or pay someone else to do it, can properly be a right.

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To: John Koligman who wrote (6086)2/12/2009 1:06:25 PM
From: Peter Dierks  Respond to of 42652
 
"Governments tend not to solve problems, only to rearrange them."
President Ronald Reagan

Because the current system hasn't worked and healthcare IMO should be a right...

There you have said it. You need to get that in the form of a Constitutional Amendment. If you can do it, I will respect your opinion while emigrating. The rights that our Forefathers intended to enumerate, they enumerated.

You are talking socialism.