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To: Salt'n'Peppa who wrote (117762)2/13/2009 1:19:15 PM
From: CommanderCricket2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206131
 
S&P,

If you really want to trade HOD/HOU, at least short the snot out of um...

As long as contango is in place, anyone "long" these etf's are going to get screwed.



To: Salt'n'Peppa who wrote (117762)2/13/2009 1:58:20 PM
From: cyesp  Respond to of 206131
 
UNG and USO have nice option premiums, writing covered calls against a long position might be a good way to partially monetize their decay.



To: Salt'n'Peppa who wrote (117762)2/13/2009 2:04:19 PM
From: couldawoulda  Respond to of 206131
 
yep - backwardation is the play on these. The contango lessening today is encouraging, but it's probably because these ETF's are done playing with current and front month contracts. I think the play on the ETF's coming up is definitely to go long... finally. In the meantime, HOU lost a whopping $8 crude gain to go along with last months $3 and the prior months $5. Explains why $48 represented the high vs. $147 crude last year. Ugh. Timing, timing. I do also think we get a good EIA report next week, because API had to be saying something about current inventories.



To: Salt'n'Peppa who wrote (117762)2/13/2009 8:40:53 PM
From: tom pope  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206131
 
Wait until WTI goes into backwardation. Then the mechanics of the trade will be working for you instead of against you. Anyway, that's my plan.

Of course I may have a long wait for the backwardation to reassert itself.