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To: RetiredNow who wrote (5057)	2/16/2009 7:15:50 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Respond to of 86356

What you posted is the opposite of the truth. Models have quite consistently tended to over-estimate future temperatures: warwickhughes.com The tables below provide a comparison of model predictions with actual observations and provide a yes-no-undetermined score of whether the models are successful or not. .... Scoring is won-lost-tie system. A win means models and observations reasonably agree. A loss means significant disagreement. A tie means the models or observations give contradictory results. ... Summary score: Score 1-27-4 --------- Global Warming Models: Predictions vs. Evidence [Jay Richards] Although it's not yet updated to the new IPPC report (which hasn't actually come out yet), Doug Hoyt has developed a scorecard to compare the major predictions of global warming models with actual observations. He gives each prediction a "yes-no-undetermined score." So if the major models' prediction is confirmed, the score at the beginning would be 1-0-0. So how do the models score when compared with the evidence? The final score is 1-27-4. That's one confirmed prediction, 27 disconfirmed, and 4 undetermined. Hoyt isn't a newcomer to the debate. He's published important work on sunspot observations over the past 4 centuries. He also coauthored a book called The Role of the Sun in Climate Change , published by some fringe outfit called "Oxford University Press." planetgore.nationalreview.com --------- Proceed with the ad hominem attacks, hurling of insults, and shifting of subject.