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Politics : GOPwinger Lies/Distortions/Omissions/Perversions of Truth -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: J_F_Shepard who wrote (155124)	2/17/2009 8:43:51 PM
From: Brumar89	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 173976

It is incorrect to confine yourself to the Declaration as an indicator of Jefferson's religiosity. In the Declaration he was writing as a secretary for the Continental Congress. The passage by Jefferson I posted to you earlier clearly showed he did believe in a God who judged mankind and nations and intervened in history. He was also a unitarian, not a deist, though many make the mistake of calling him that. Not the same thing and not the same thing as todays UU's. A deist would not have expressed fear that God would punish America for slavery: "And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction that these liberties are of the gift of God? That they are not to be violated but with his wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: That his justice cannot sleep for ever: that considering numbers, nature and natural means only, a revolution of the wheel of fortune, an exchange of situation, is among possible events: that it may become probable by supernatural interference!" Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia (1781-1782) -------------------- "Here Episcopalian and Presbyterian, Methodist and Baptist, meet together, join in hymning their Maker, listen with attention and devotion to each other's preachers and all mix in society in perfect harmony." Where does it say he took part in singing and group prayer? In the passage where he says that everyone at the church meetings he attended joined in hymning their Maker. That means singing. This was in a letter he wrote to Thomas Cooper in 1822. Taking part in Episcopalian worship would have involved common readings from a prayer book. He was raised an Episcopalian, served as a vestryman in his early life. He later departed from orthodox belief and effectively became a unitarian, though he never officially left one church and joined the other.