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To: Road Walker who wrote (457964)2/20/2009 8:12:09 AM
From: combjelly2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573885
 
"I'm still a deficit hawk. "

Then you are insufficiently blindly ideological. That makes you a hypocrite.

Or something...



To: Road Walker who wrote (457964)2/20/2009 9:24:09 AM
From: i-node  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573885
 
I'm still a deficit hawk.

Don't be ridiculous.

You voted for the biggest spender in history for president. In the course of a month he has managed to get through the biggest wasteful spending bill ever signed into law. And there could have been no misunderstanding about it; we all KNEW that's precisely what he would do if elected.

but I'm pretty sure of the consequences if we didn't.

The issue is whether this trillion will change, in any way, the mess we're in. I was opposed to TARP, but it is starting to look as though the first $350 Billion literally saved our asses -- if so, Bush must be lauded for his actions. And I hope this trillion in wasteful spending helps, at least some. There is just nothing in there that provides any reason for encouragement.

And they are dire... without all this action including the stimulus, TARP and the behind the scenes stuff, I think the economy would have come to almost a complete halt by now, with zero credit available anywhere.

Oh, I get it. The stimulus, which was passed last week and literally not one nickel of which has been distributed, has saved the economy. I think I see where you're headed with this.

You're a partisan hack. Bad as tejek.



To: Road Walker who wrote (457964)2/20/2009 9:24:48 AM
From: michael97123  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573885
 
local radio did analysis on fdr and obama approach. FDR was more upbeat. i think obama needs to be more upbeat as well. We have a buyers strike going on in this country. You dont want to tell people to spend, spend, spend but you do want the american people to feel confident again. Talking about dire consequences is not good for confidence building. We need a sunnier approach lie fdr and reagan. Maybe this is not in obama personality..He needs someone in admin to do some of this cheerleading.



To: Road Walker who wrote (457964)2/20/2009 10:44:49 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573885
 
don't care who you feel like blaming for this mess. It's Obama's mess now.

Yeah, and you can't 'blame him' for not fixing it in 3 weeks.


Oh but they are.....big time.......and not just wingnuts. Some of his supporters have started to turn on him.



To: Road Walker who wrote (457964)2/20/2009 11:50:35 AM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573885
 
RW, > What we're doing in a short span is adding about 10% to the total national debt

Per year?

> And they are dire... without all this action including the stimulus, TARP and the behind the scenes stuff, I think the economy would have come to almost a complete halt by now, with zero credit available anywhere.

Yeah, that's the story being sold by the Democrats. Even history will have a hard time judging whether "doing something" was indeed better than "doing nothing."

You have to be suspicious about that claim of "saving 3.5M jobs." What if we lost 3.5M jobs over the next four years, even with this stimulus bill? Obama will just claim that we would have lost 7M if we did nothing.

Reminds me of a snake oil salesman.

Tenchusatsu



To: Road Walker who wrote (457964)2/20/2009 12:48:41 PM
From: Brumar891 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573885
 
No one who goes along with a trillion dollar budget deficit is a "deficit hawk". BTW I'm thinking Obama can get us to the $2 trillion dollar deficit level.