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To: Poet who wrote (186405)	2/25/2009 10:11:29 AM
From: Jill	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

I don't think the standards for online publishing approach print publishing. I do think the top literary journals can survive by being bundled into packages that include e-pub for universities. This is how the top science journals are surviving. They still offer print versions, but they make their money by being bundled into subscriptions that big universities pay for in bulk and now you can get "e pub ahead of print" in many cases. I span the gamut. I've published poetry in places like the Cimarron Review, I had an essay column for 2 years (the magazine is on life support/hospice since the financial debacle), and have a 2 book contract for children's novels. And I can tell you it's all in trouble, the entire spectrum of publishing. One of my dearest, best editors was fired right before she was going to win Employee of the Year award. It was simply financial desperation. The magazine had to pare costs. I do not believe reading online is the right medium for poetry or essays or books or anything that requires slow, thoughtful perusal. In addition, ebook reading devices are not nearly as comfortable though someday they may be, as real books, where you can turn and fold pages, make notes in margins, etc. Moreover--are these profitable ventures? Even literary journals managed, through subscriptions, and perhaps grants, to self support. Are editors earning a living at this? Are writers being paid? If online journals are exercises in donation so one can be published, I don't regard that as a successful model. As Colin Robinson points out, the online experience sacrifices the writers to the readers. The writing just is not as good generally. I don't see an easy solution to it when Twitter has "literary awards." Although Susan Orlean has a nice twitter page and apparently is using Google Docs and so when her hard drive crashed, she still had her new book material available. I'm thinking of looking into that. But Susan Orlean is a fine literary writer who will publish real books. The day I have to read Susan Orlean on line, I'm emigrating to another solar system.

To: Poet who wrote (186405)	2/25/2009 1:36:51 PM
From: fatty	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

If the print edition goes out of business, much of the print ad revenue will make its way to the website. The newspapers have at least 10 years to transform themselves, it's too bad that some can't make it successfully. For the past 10+ years, the only time I brought a print edition is on Thanksgivings, just to look for black friday deals.

To: Poet who wrote (186405)	2/27/2009 12:59:46 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

Jill knows the journalism end of things, so she's an expert there. I can tell you that the literary end of the continuum-- for electronic journals-- is healthy and surging in both readership and a great creative global comingling. I agree with you. I don't think we will ever stop reading.

To: Poet who wrote (186405)	2/27/2009 5:07:25 AM
From: energyplay	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

We will eventually get journalism and literature with out having to process as many trees or drive as many trucks. Which is likely to make what emerges much more profitable, with lower costs to the reader and possibly more money for authors (in total - i expect we will see many more authors) In the meantime, lots of turbulence. If the economy was better - this transition might be happening even faster, and the newspapers would be in worse shape. More laptops, more WiFi, more broadband would hit even faster. The San Francisco Chronicle serves Northern California, including Silicon valley - one reason the Chronicle is being hit so hard.