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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: lorne who wrote (60047)	2/25/2009 12:29:48 PM
From: kathtoo	Respond to of 224729

Yep. Barney Frank was part of the problem. I never said that certain Democrats weren't to blame. But here is my problem with that guy that wrote the 15 reasons why obama blah blah blah He conveniently leaves out key things that are much worse in order to paint ONE SIDE as RIGHT (or correct, if you will) and paint the other side as wrong. It just isn't like that. And there is a ton of blame for the lack of oversight that goes to Republicans because they were in POWER! Obama has been in office one month. There's plenty of time to call him out. Were you all calling out GWB? When, One month, One year? Four Years? Six? Ever? Truthfully? I am an equal opportunity cynic, when it comes to our politicians. I'm just tired of the hypocrisy. And I really can't abide by anymore pretty well off conservatives blaming the minorities for this mess. I just can't abide by it. It's racism. Sure, Did some minorities try and scam the system. Yes. And some just were ignorant. But don't play that card ad nauseum, ignoring the other facts that came into play, and over emphasise its role in this debacle. I really like Joe Scarborough, but he has gone on and on about this. And he is wrong because it is only one piece of what contributed to this mess. The wealthy people on wall street that brought us this mess, sit in their fancy houses, eating caviar, driving their lexus, going to the Hamptons, and they don't give a rats ass. And I'm not hatin' I'm calling a spade a spade, telling it like it is.

To: lorne who wrote (60047)	2/25/2009 12:39:08 PM
From: Kenneth E. Phillipps	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224729

lorne, you can't ignore the role of the SEC in causing the finanacial meltdown - especially the amendment to regulations in 2004 which allowed the investment banks to over leverage their investments.

To: lorne who wrote (60047)	2/25/2009 6:44:37 PM
From: MJ	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224729

As you wrote---- "In fact, that isn't what Reagan said. His actual words were: "In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem." Were he president today, he would be saying much the same thing." So true--------now we have a President who thinks he has the solutions---that government is the answer. I didn't check in on the market until the end of the day----out of the stocks I monitor only two were up by something like .02 cents or 0.005-------red across the board. That's what the private sector thinks of Obama's ideas. Obama lambasted Wall Street and the private sector----in so doing he was lambasting every American who is older than he---as we have been the doers in this nation, the one's who made it possible for him to have his Harvard education, the ones who paid for his food stamps when he was on welfare in Hawaii. There was virtually nothing in his thoughts for people older than he-----in fact he indicated that he wanted Medicare not to do medical work for Seniors that the government deems unnecessary. Any baby boomers who voted for Obama should know that they have had the life support pulled out from under them figuratively speaking-----the government will decide who lives and dies----who gets life giving medical treatment or who dies. Obama is no Reagan that's for sure. mj