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To: buckbldr who wrote (118451)3/3/2009 4:27:43 AM
From: axial9 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 206191
 
"... since the Commander and I have both expressed a serious dislike for a Socialistic governance..."

This phrase prompts some questions:

- have you appointed yourself and the Commander as authoritative judges on all forms of human governance? Or are you like ordinary mortals, merely possessing an opinion?

- can you define for us, please, what is meant by "Socialistic governance"? Or is that just a pejorative label, thrown in as a rhetorical trick?

- are you implying that the people shall have no say in how their nation conducts its affairs? That voters have no right to enact such "socialistic" measures as the 40-hour work week, or relief from bankruptcy? Should we smell "Socialistic governance" in these laws? If so, is it a bad smell?

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Questions are intended to support neither your position, nor your opponent's. These days, there are many heated arguments.

While there is no intention to dispute opinions (and the right to them) there is an objection to rhetorical tricks used in a supposedly "rational" debate.

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Name Calling: hanging a bad label on an idea, symbolized by a hand turning thumbs down;

Card Stacking: selective use of facts or outright falsehoods, symbolized by an ace of spades, a card signifying treachery;

Band Wagon: a claim that everyone like us thinks this way, symbolized by a marching bandleader's hat and baton;

Testimonial: the association of a respected or hated person with an idea, symbolized by a seal and ribbon stamp of approval;

Plain Folks: a technique whereby the idea and its proponents are linked to "people just like you and me," symbolized by an old shoe;

Transfer: an assertion of a connection between something valued or hated and the idea or commodity being discussed, symbolized by a smiling Greek theater mask; and

Glittering Generality: an association of something with a "virtue word" to gain approval without examining the evidence; symbolized by a sparkling gem."

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Jim



To: buckbldr who wrote (118451)3/3/2009 5:32:15 PM
From: Archie Meeties9 Recommendations  Respond to of 206191
 
You're opposed to removing credits, exemptions, preferential tax treatment for a specific industry, and yet you're asking me if I'm the socialist? I stand humbled at the altar of wackiness.