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To: Peter Dierks who wrote (33737)3/6/2009 12:38:44 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71588
 
"So because you don't want to hear the facts about OBama's declining job approval...."

HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

*GASP*!

You posted a daily poll showing the President's support to be *one point higher* then the last daily poll you posted --- and somehow (when peering through that odd 'Peter looking glass'...) that translates into plummeting, ever-declining popularity numbers?????????????????

Have you even listened to yourself recently?

Have you never even heard of a 'statistical margin of error' in the daily samplings? (A function of the sample size....)

Geese, man... that displays 'cult-like' focus in the way you can exclude ordinary reality!



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (33737)3/6/2009 3:55:32 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71588
 
For GOP: all pain, no gain

POLITICO
By: Ben Smith
March 5, 2009 04:20 AM EST
dyn.politico.com

Four months after John McCain’s sweeping defeat, senior Republicans are coming to grips with the fact that the party is still – in stock market terms – looking for the bottom.

Republicans this week are processing two sobering new polls that found the party’s support reduced to a slim one-quarter of Americans
. In the absence of a popular elected leader, its most visible figure is a polarizing radio host. Its strategic powerhouse is a still-divisive former House speaker forced from power more than 10 years ago.

And its hopes of demonstrating swift and visible change by pushing people of color to the fore have been dented by the stumbles of the party’s two most prominent non-white leaders, national Chairman Michael Steele and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal.

So perhaps it’s no surprise that many prominent Republicans are forecasting a long winter.

“You think you hit bottom, and it can always go lower,” said Republican pollster Whit Ayres, who said his party’s best hope is that President Barack Obama overreaches. “The Republicans just entered the wilderness – we’re going to wander around there for a little while before coming back stronger than ever.

“I have no idea where the bottom is just like I have no idea where the bottom is on the stock market,” he said.

“It probably gets worse before it gets better, though I’m not sure how much worse it could get,” said Tom Rath, a New Hampshire Republican leader and former state attorney general. “The first chance at redemption is 18, 19 months away, and we’re going to have to gut it out here for a while.”

Another party wise man, Fred Malek, told POLITICO the party now sits at its “nadir” – though he, like others, said its best hope is to wait for the economy to tarnish Obama.

“Our leaders’ arguments are falling on deaf ears today, but they are sound. It’s just a matter of time before this becomes Obama’s recession,” he said.

The gap in trust and popularity is mirrored, prominent Republicans fret, by a vast gap between the parties’ infrastructure. Republicans also fear that they are outmatched by a Democratic publicity and fundraising machine honed in opposition, and on display this week in a successful effort to associate the GOP with radio host Rush Limbaugh. Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is trying to fashion a role as the intellectual driving force of the GOP-in-exile, but he hasn’t held office since the 1990s.

Add in a politically popular and groundbreaking Democratic president in Obama, and even the Republicans’ most practiced brawlers feel the party is flat-footed.

“The Left has put together the most powerful political coalition I’ve ever witnessed,” said former House majority leader Tom DeLay, whose 1994 GOP coalition once might have vied for that honor. “Obama improved upon it in the presidential campaign, but the Republicans are still in denial.”

Added John Weaver, a former McCain aide: “We’re working damn hard to see how fast we can hit rock bottom – we’re allowing the Democrats to completely not only set the national agenda but also set our internal agenda.”

Meanwhile the party’s governors, typically a source of strength for an out-of-power party, are largely overshadowed by Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. Some, like Louisiana's Bobby Jindal and South Carolina's Mark Sanford, have inserted themselves into the party's leadership scrum, while others are keeping their focus local and bracing for the storm.

“It’s just a matter of enduring the early days of transformation – it’s never going to be pretty and it’s never going to be fun to watch it play out beyond a pure entertainment level,” Utah’s Jon Huntsman told POLITICO. “We haven’t had a healthy, rigorous discussion about our future in many years, and meanwhile the world has changed. Unless we want to be consigned to minority-party status for a long time, we need to recognize these tectonic shifts happening under our feet.”

Some of the GOP dissatisfaction has focused on new chairman Michael Steele, who has delivered a string of gaffes on television, while not putting much infrastructure in place at the party’s headquarters. Steele criticized Limbaugh as being merely an “entertainer” who makes “ugly” remarks – then said he was sorry two days later.

“He’s like Howard Dean, cubed,” griped one former party official. “People are kind of waiting to be led, and he’s just leading himself into green rooms.”

Ron Kaufman, a top political aide to the first President Bush, said Steele “bit off more than he could chew a little bit. He made a lot of change, perhaps, before he was ready to replace what was there before.”

“He’s trying to do the right thing,” Kaufman added, saying it was “too soon” to give a final judgment on Steele.

The discomfort with Steele is part of a broader complaint about a lack of a national leader, a common condition for an opposition party.

The party’s congressional leadership has shown discipline and focus in offering a near-unanimous rejection of Obama’s stimulus package -- but has not, so far, succeeded in offering a palatable alternative to the popular president’s economic leadership. An NBC/Wall Street Journal poll found that, by a 48-20 percent margin, Americans believe Democrats will do a better job digging the U.S. out of recession than Republicans.

“It’s unclear what is the ‘Republican stimulus plan,’ ” former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney told POLITICO last week, urging congressional Republicans to come up with clear alternatives to Obama’s policies.

Richard Viguerie, the direct mail pioneer who helped create the modern conservative movement, was more scathing in a press release Wednesday.

"The 'Rushification' of the GOP is the natural and inevitable result of the fact that those who are supposed to provide leadership -- Republican elected officials and party officers -- are doing little to bring the party back," he said. "Nature abhors a vacuum, and there is no vacuum in nature as empty as the leadership of the Republican Party today."

Conditions are more mixed in the states, where leaders say they are – for better or worse – insulated from the national storm.

“I am bullish on the Republican Party in Iowa,” said that state’s new GOP chairman, Matt Strawn. “I haven’t gotten a single call from a county leader on the Chairman Steele-Rush Limbaugh back and forth.”

Others are more downbeat.

“Up here we’ve got a very serious rebuilding problem and it starts at the ground level,” said Rath, of New Hampshire. “With all due respect, what Rush Limbaugh or Newt Gingrich or Michael Steele says is hardly relevant to the country chairman who’s trying to find candidates for the legislature.”

As for the search for national leaders, said Rath, “I’m not sure we’re ready for that yet – I’m not sure we need a serious relationship right now. I think we just need to sort through where we’ve been for a while.”

To the extent that Republicans see hope, it’s in Obama himself, the leftward tilt of his policies, and the chance that he comes to be blamed for the nation’s economic woes.

“This guy, just like [Bill] Clinton, is misreading the election results and governing from the left,” said Kaufman.

“In politics nothing’s ever as good or as bad as it seems,” said another seasoned observer, former party chairman Ed Gillespie, who was quoting one of his predecessors, Haley Barbour. “Even if it’s not as bad as it seems, though, things are bad for the Republican Party right now.”

© 2009 Capitol News Company, LLC



To: Peter Dierks who wrote (33737)3/6/2009 4:19:20 AM
From: DuckTapeSunroof  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71588
 
Why Steele just doesn't get it

POLITICO
By: Roger Simon
March 5, 2009 04:22 AM EST
dyn.politico.com

Michael Steele has just dipped his toe into the water and is already in over his head.

Steele has been the chairman of the Republican National Committee for only about a month, and already there is speculation that he may be on his way out.

Steele’s job is really not that difficult. Being a party chairman is not what it used to be. Steele’s job is to raise money and go on TV every now and then and not screw things up too badly.

He has failed at this last task.

Unfortunately for him, Steele actually believes he should be the voice of the Republican Party, crafting its vision and shaping its strategy.

Enter Rush Limbaugh. Limbaugh has his own voice, his own vision and his own strategy. And the real trouble for Steele is that Limbaugh understands the core of the Republican Party — where it wants to go and what it wants to do — far better than Steele does.

Steele has somehow gotten it into his head that hard-core Republicans want to expand the party base to attract new voters, especially minorities.

As Steele told Time magazine when he was running for his job: “I’ll tell local chairmen, ‘If you want to be chairman under my leadership, don’t think this is a country club atmosphere where we sit around drinking wine and eating cheese and talking amongst ourselves. If you don’t want to drill down and build coalitions to minority communities, then you have to give that seat to someone who does.’”

True to his word, after he was elected chairman, Steele told The Washington Times that he wanted an “off the hook” public relations offensive to reach out to “the young, Hispanic, black — a cross section” and apply party principles “to urban-suburban, hip-hop settings.”

There were two main reactions to this in the Republican Party: “What the hell is this guy babbling about?” and “I know what the hell this guy is babbling about, and I don’t like it.”

Rush Limbaugh does not want to take the Republican Party “off the hook.” And he doesn’t know hip-hop from the Bunny Hop.

But Rush Limbaugh knows that the real question confronting the Republican Party today is not who is leading it but who is still in it.

The party has rarely been more unpopular. An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released this week shows that only 26 percent of Americans have a positive view of the Republican Party, compared with 49 percent for the Democratic Party.

According to a New York Times/CBS News poll released last week, “Americans identifying themselves as Democrats outnumber those who say they are Republicans by 10 percentage points, the largest gap in party identification in 24 years.”

And Republicans don’t even come in second. More Americans identify themselves as independent than as Republican.

You can view these results the way Steele does and conclude that the base has to be broadened. “I want to take the party back to communities outside its comfort zone,” Steele said.

Or you can view these results the way Limbaugh does and say that the base has shrunk to true Republicans and that’s who the party wants.

If you are a hard-core Republican, going outside the “comfort zone” means acting like a Democrat. It means backing President Barack Obama to gain favor with voters. It means abandoning social issues such as abortion, guns and gay marriage in favor of kitchen table issues such as jobs, health care and the environment.

Hard-core Republicans don’t want to go there, and Rush Limbaugh doesn’t want to go there, and that is why White House chief of staff Rahm Emanuel was more correct than incorrect when he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation With Bob Schieffer” on Sunday that Limbaugh “is the voice and the intellectual force and energy behind the Republican Party.”

Limbaugh understands the Republican Party. He understands that to those still in it, the party is still the party of Ronald Reagan. And the enemy is still big government, high taxes and regulation.

Is this a formula for future growth? Is this a formula for future victories?

Who cares? Victory is secondary to adherence to true principle. Victory is secondary to ideological purity.

Limbaugh believes that if the Republican Party is true to its core principles and voters continue to turn away from it, that is because the voters are idiots. And they deserve the chaos that will follow.

Michael Steele doesn’t get that. And before he was forced to grovel and apologize, Steele said Limbaugh could be “ugly” and “incendiary.”

Which is why one top GOP strategist was recently quoted as saying of Steele, “If his implosion continues, RNC members are likely to call a special session to dump him for an effective chairman.”

Could Rush Limbaugh become chairman of the Republican Party? No way.

He would never take a demotion.

© 2009 Capitol News Company, LLC