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To: twmoore who wrote (162437)3/6/2009 7:47:57 PM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 361480
 
I agree with you...Leyland didn't get a contract extension and that would only happen if he gets the Tigers into the play-offs in 2009...;-)



To: twmoore who wrote (162437)3/11/2009 5:04:12 PM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 361480
 
Case closed? Bring Porcello north

mackavenuetigers.com



To: twmoore who wrote (162437)3/13/2009 4:44:24 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 361480
 
Tigers look ready to use rookie Rick Porcello now

detnews.com

Pitcher's stellar outings appear to have earned him ticket to the majors, but is team being hasty?

By Lynn Henning
The Detroit News
Friday, March 13, 2009

LAKELAND, Fla. -- Fans are nervous. Fans are excited. Rick Porcello is coming to town, as near as we can tell today, as part of Tigers manager Jim Leyland's rotation.

The cautionary crowd isn't sure it likes it. Don't the Tigers remember Jeremy Bonderman moving straight from Class A to the big leagues? Aren't the Tigers still trying to teach Bonderman a change-up that he should have learned in the minors?

And why take chances with a franchise pitcher's arm? Porcello threw a maximum of 75 pitches per game during last summer's baptism at Class A Lakeland. Why would the Tigers risk ruining his arm by making him throw 100 or more pitches a game in the big leagues?

The worrywarts are grief-stricken. They fret about destroying his confidence as Porcello runs into that inevitable bad day when he learns what big league batters do to imprecise pitches.

So, they prefer that a 20-year-old right-hander not quite two years out of high school do an internship at Double-A Erie. Then, maybe, the Tigers can give him a start or two in September and let him compete for a job next spring, when he's at least of drinking age.

They have their points, which the Tigers are considering.

But it looks as if one over-arching argument will win:

Porcello is good enough to pitch -- and win -- in the majors.

He is not David Clyde, the high-school pitcher from the early 1970s promoted prematurely by Texas Rangers owner Bob Short. And Porcello isn't Mark Fidrych, who was 21 when he stormed Detroit and the baseball world in 1976.

Porcello is not even Bonderman, who had only two trustworthy pitches when he was rushed to Detroit in 2003.

No, the differences with Porcello are many and substantive.

The Tigers understood as much 21 months ago when they drafted him and paid him more than any team had offered a high school pitcher to sign a big league deal.

They did it because Porcello was extraordinary. Nothing he has shown the Tigers in the 19 months since has shaken their belief.

He was good as a rookie

During spring training a year ago, Porcello had the best combination of pitches and command of any pitcher in camp. On pure pitching skills and repertoire, the Tigers could have made an extreme case for bringing him north even then. Instead they sent him to high Class A ball at Lakeland, which is where quality 21- and 22-year-olds often find themselves.

Porcello led the Florida State League in earned-run average.

The Tigers were not planning on Porcello going anywhere in 2009 but to Double-A camp at Erie (Pa.). Then their franchise prospect arrived at camp, throwing strikes, unleashing a brutal sinkerball, and alternating it on occasion with a big four-seam fastball, a decent curve, and a big league change-up.

Porcello has pitched brilliantly and steadily. He has shaken off bad luck and mistakes. He has thrown strikes, strikes, and more strikes. Hitters have beat his 92-mph sinker into the ground, repeatedly.

So the Tigers have all but decided to take him north. A couple of bad outings could change plans, but the ugly stuff might be at a minimum, given his skills and makeup.

The pitch-count issue is valid. But what does it matter if Porcello throws 100 pitches per game at Erie -- which was to be this year's allotment -- or with Detroit?

He has shelved his slider, which he and his coaches found erratic last summer. But how many starters have four pitches? And if you have the curveball Porcello already displays, why worry about a slider that will stress his arm more?

Kevin Goldstein, national writer on scouting and player development for Baseball Prospectus, thinks the Tigers are playing it smart.

"Absolutely, a case can be made," Goldstein said. "When a kid's ready, he's ready.

"You need two things: special talent, and Porcello is certainly that. And then you need to make sure that what's between the ears is in the right place, and that can be a bigger hurdle for some more than talent. By all accounts, they have the right thing going on there (with Porcello), as well."

Moving too fast?

That's one argument. The other is the Tigers might be hurrying things.

A scout, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, saw Porcello pitch twice last summer at Lakeland. He is leery about any quick promotions.

"I don't know how well he's throwing this spring, as far as velocity, or location," the scout said, "but what I saw last summer was that he threw the ball knee-high and that I didn't see anything out of the ordinary other than his control.

"I didn't see anything close to the velocity that had been advertised. I didn't see a hammer curveball that I had heard about. Basically, he got players out because he threw strikes and kept the ball away from the middle of the plate. I didn't see anything in two appearances that indicated he was anything close to (Justin) Verlander or pitchers of that caliber."

The scout has another reservation, based on Porcello's age and the fact he barely averaged five innings per start last season. He believes too many innings too soon is a recipe for trouble.

The Tigers have their own reservations based on those very points. It will all be part of the discussion during the next month.

Baseball is nothing if it's not good discussion and debate. The Tigers will be involved in lots of it in coming days. A talent as rare as Porcello has already seen to that.



To: twmoore who wrote (162437)3/17/2009 3:09:00 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 361480
 
Trial by Fire: Is Rick Porcello Heading to Detroit?

bleacherreport.com



To: twmoore who wrote (162437)3/28/2009 3:34:42 AM
From: stockman_scott  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 361480
 
Tigers' Cabrera worth his weight in millions

usatoday.com



To: twmoore who wrote (162437)4/1/2009 1:42:25 AM
From: stockman_scott  Respond to of 361480
 
Tigers drama just getting started

detnews.com

By Lynn Henning
Columnist
The Detroit News
Wednesday, April 1, 2009

Lakeland, Fla. -- As shocked as just about everyone was Tuesday over Gary Sheffield's release, the feeling is that it was a table-setter.

The Tigers are in a state of stunning transition. They're attempting to get younger, faster and better on defense. Already, the move to restore Brandon Inge to third base and place Adam Everett at shortstop has boosted the team's infield defense 100 percent.

Sheffield's dismissal Tuesday was a cue more drama is building.

It's clear, for example, that Rick Porcello, the dazzling 20-year-old right-hander, could make the team as Jim Leyland's fifth starter.

That could mean Nate Robertson will be released, despite the $17 million owed him through 2010. The Tigers didn't blink in swallowing Sheffield's $14 million. They'll eat Robertson's contract and the $22 million owed Dontrelle Willis (now on the disabled list) if they're convinced neither pitcher can contribute.

Right now, neither is close to being healthy enough (Willis) or effective enough (Robertson) to merit a spot on the staff.

Impossible option
Sheffield's exit should've been anticipated. He's 40 years old. He was hitting .178 this spring. He had a frighteningly low .378 slugging percentage.

If press box analysis is correct, pitchers seemed to be going after him with fastballs away, and Sheffield no longer is handling that pitch. A first reaction Tuesday was it was nonetheless a bad move to cut Sheffield and retain Marcus Thames, who, somewhat surprisingly, has drawn next to no interest on the trade market.

Thames is a poor defender. Unlike Sheffield, he doesn't draw walks. By the team's own admission, he's worn down during previous seasons when his batting numbers dipped during the second half.

So why cut Sheffield and keep Thames?

Carrying Thames and Sheffield became an impossible option for a team needing defense and left-handed hitting, which produced the Josh Anderson trade Monday and likely will lead to Jeff Larish making the club.

Thames is eight years younger than Sheffield and should hit more home runs in 2009 than Sheffield, although that's not the point. The Tigers will give Thames a chance to show regular at-bats as a designated hitter will be fruitful for him, and for them.

"He's a three-run home run waiting to happen," Leyland said of Thames.

If Thames fails to produce in the manner expected of a DH, he'll be released in the same fashion as Sheffield.

Ilitch has a say, too
The Tigers at that point promptly will add Clete Thomas to their active roster. The potentially fine all-around player would have made the team this spring had his throwing arm been 100 percent after last September's Tommy John surgery.

He's the kind of player the Tigers are chasing now that it's clear their lack of speed and challenges on defense have left them and their wobbly pitching staff vulnerable.

The interesting role player in these moves is owner Mike Ilitch. He's clearly told his front office to go with players who give his team its best chance to win. Bad contracts are miserable experiences, but they're also part of professional sports.

I believe Porcello and Ryan Perry will make the team, that Robertson and Willis are on their way out, that Thames is probably on a short leash, and that in time you'll see Carlos Guillen and Magglio Ordonez as Leyland's dual choices at DH.

It's all part of making over a team. And a big part of that transformation happened Tuesday with Sheffield's release.