To: longnshort who wrote (462149 ) 3/9/2009 11:56:27 AM From: combjelly 1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574880 "Wikipedia Scrubs Ayers and Wright From Obama Biography" Unlike wingnut sites, of which WorldNetDaily is one and NewsBusters is another, the Wikipedia's methodology is documented as well as any addition or deletions along with explanations of why it was done. For example, about Wright.No Mention of Wright While the policy in A5 (not mentioning "fairly minor issues [that had] no significant legal or mainstream political impact) would seem to keep any mention of Obama's citizenship controversy out of his article, I don't think the same can be said for his association with Reverend Wright and the church where he preached. Those had both significant and mainstream impact. Does someone disagree? Lawyer2b (talk) 09:49, 9 March 2009 (UTC) It's probably worth somewhere between two words and a sentence, as a matter of proportionality. It currently has a sentence, but in a footnote. If moved back into the main section it should be posed in a way that focuses on the relationship to Obama, and his decision to leave the church in light of the controversy, as opposed to focusing on Wright himself or the relatively modest campaign issue. However, it may be difficult to achieve any kind of consensus for a little while here given the editing issues.Wikidemon (talk) 10:03, 9 March 2009 (UTC) Suggest waiting a couple days for the wnd and drudge trolling to die down and then posting a proposed edit here for consensus discussion. cheers, --guyzero | talk 10:10, 9 March 2009 (UTC) With the amount of press that this had, including Obama having to address this publicly, there must be some mention in the text itself, perhaps a sentence or two, with a wikilink or a {{main}}/{{see also}} to the proper article. While it should not, and cannot be allowed to take an undue role here, its only mention coming in a footnote smacks of POV hagiography which expressly violated WP:NPOV. -- Avi (talk) 12:32, 9 March 2009 (UTC) The problem is, your wingnut buddies were constantly adding material that goes against Wikipedia guidelines. So it was placed under article probation. Why can't you wingnuts follow the rules? They do cover you also, you know.