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To: loantech who wrote (64082)3/9/2009 11:49:17 PM
From: LLCF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78409
 
Thanks for the info... pretty interesting spec it seems. Did a stocks sale @ $5 and the underwritters excercised an optoin to buy an additional 3+ million shares! LOL, silly gooses. Oh, then I see they sold more stock @ $2! What a kick in the face to those other buyers... too funny. What a crazy business... But I really like this shit when you can buy for a fraction of what the big boyz got. Boy those preferreds look interesting too... presumably sold them @ par and trading under $20 with massive dividends??

DAK



To: loantech who wrote (64082)3/10/2009 1:53:13 AM
From: marcos  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 78409
 
Silver in backwardation, hmm hadn't heard that, doesn't look like by much though ... seems like a few cents could be accounted for by spot being on the uptick while futures are on downtick? .. a dollar of backwardation, now that would be something, even two bits if it was sustained

Assumption of 20-dollar silver for FY09, well that would make a lot of them fly wouldn't it, lol ... Greens Creek is quite a mine though, koan said that a number of times, knew a geo that had worked there [if memory serves?], those veins just keep going for miles out under the ocean, and they're deadly rich, wide, easy to mine ... no hassles with locals [? - i think], and now they've got 100% of it, paid a lot so that holds them back for a while, but 20-dollar silver would definitely put them ahead

Comparing Hecla with usa.v, how does it stack up with a 3m oz producer at market cap of usd21m, cost/oz of 11ish ... one advantage they'll have here is it's a larger company, got name recognition bigtime, so they'll get a higher multiple for sure ... just wondering, how much higher ... using this fellow's figures and your shares-out [leaving aside wts/opts on both as they're o.t.m.] -

Hecla - market cap 262m divided by 11m ozs = 23.82 dollars per oz of production, plus whatever the debt/oz is

usa.v - market cap 21m divided by 3m ozs = 7.0 dollars per oz of production, no debt



To: loantech who wrote (64082)3/11/2009 5:46:24 PM
From: Pacing The Cage1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 78409
 
RE:"we’ll need to make some reasonable assumptions. Let’s assume that silver rises back to $20 per ounce, and gold goes to $1,300 per ounce by the second half of 2009"

Maybe it's just me, but those assumptions seem to be a lot more optimistic than reasonable! (not that I'd mind!)

Disclosure: I currently own a bit of HL, and am considering adding more.