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To: Brumar89 who wrote (5884)	3/10/2009 8:28:58 AM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86350

You're to the left not just on the Iraq issue, but pretty much everything, so I think radicalized is appropriate. Left, right, center... all depends on the perspective of the viewer. Pick something totally unrelated to defense / security issues: Gun control... firmly against it up to 'military weapons' Abortion... states rights issue Same sex marrage... don't give a shit Sympathetic to the UAW... yes Believer in AGW... agnostic, just don't know Immigration... allowed more for high end less for low end, eliminate illegal immigration Federal deficit... a deficit hawk Nation building... against Free trade... on an equal basis States rights... very strong supporter Now I don't have a knee jerk hate of government, so to you that might make me a radical.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (5884)	3/10/2009 8:47:35 AM
From: RetiredNow	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86350

Since when does being on the left mean you are a radical? Would that also mean that if you are to the right, you are also a radical? Then maybe the only non-radicals are the centrists, like me. Most historians or sociologists would consider radicals to be those who hold beliefs that are not held by the majority in a group or society and are wont to use extreme means to make the majority conform to their extreme views, including instituting an extreme political agenda. By that definition, the Bush-style GOP members like yourself, who pushed for an got a rightwing extremist agenda for 8 years, are the radicals. That is born out by the fact that right now 68% of the population believe Obama is doing a good job. The 32% who don't are the radicals, because they are straying from majority opinion and are screaming chicken little at the top of their lungs. How many times have I heard extreme language about Obama from the radical right? That he's a communist or socialist, simply because he's letting the Bush tax cuts expire and the rich don't like that? Let's start calling a spade a spade. The real radicals are the radical right that have taken over today's GOP from the less ideological, more honorable rightwing that I grew up with. Be careful who you call radical. Given the history of the last 8 years, the majority in this country have ample evidence that the real radicals are the GOP.