To: LindyBill who wrote (295864 ) 3/10/2009 8:58:17 PM From: Maurice Winn 1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793852 Lindy, buyers of USA citizenships wouldn't be lined up around the block because with a market, there are no queues, just the price which clears the market. Probably what you mean is that USA citizenships would be expensive, I guess about US$2 million. NZ would be about US$1 million. Zimbabwe would be about US$1000 [speculative value = if people took it over, booted out Mugabe and made it profitable and a great place to live, which it could be, then it would zoom to US$1 million in short order]. Plenty of people would sell citizenships and governments could sell some to maintain optimum populations. If the USA sold say 1 million a year, which would be about right I guess, without diluting other citizenships excessively since there would be an optimum number of citizenships to keep things humming along optimally, that would bring in about $2 trillion a year. That's the amount of citizenship that the USA gives away for nothing to illegal immigrants. It amazes me that people treat their citizenships as having no value but they wouldn't just let any person move into their house and take over and claim part ownership of it. The reason it happens is because people are treated as and think of themselves as state chattels - serfs of the country. It's amusing that they feel patriotic when they are nothing more than property. It's a marvelous con to keep them quiet and paying money to their rulers. Obama needs LOTS of your money, so pay your taxes and smile. Racism isn't much use in citizenship selling. People who are willing to put up US$2million to buy a citizenship are not going to lose their investment by committing crimes and thereby forfeiting their citizenship or part of its value [penalties could include liens on the value of the citizenship so the criminal would have to pay the penalty out of any proceeds and it would be deducted from their estate before executors distribute the remainder to beneficiaries]. I don't buy the silly idea that only those who have served in the military can vote. What a dopey idea. Being Asia South is okay by me if the citizens are voting to make it increase in value instead of reduce in value. But in fact people would come from all over the world. If it changed too much to become impractical for me, such as Mandarin becoming the near universal language, I could sell my citizenship at a large profit and buy one in the USA, Oz, or France or somewhere which suits me better and have a luxurious lifestyle on the difference in price. Private property is good and serfdom is bad. Owning one's citizenship personally is part of freedom. Without property rights, people don't have much freedom. Buying your citizenship might be perfect for a young person and for you. You could cash up and move to a civil but cheap place like Bangalore, Fiji or somewhere, living out your twilight years with lots of servants and cash, and the young person could dig into the strong economic system and produce lots of profits which would justify their expenditure on the citizenship and would also increase the value of the citizenship because others would be doing the same. If a young person can't afford one, a sponsor such as an employer would buy one for them if they are productive and valuable enough. The young person could earn the citizenship during their working time and end up owning it after say 10 years of good service. Property rights are great things and so are auctions to establish value. Mqurice