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To: Rambi who wrote (295868)	3/10/2009 12:47:12 PM
From: mph	24 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793750

think one month in is just wayyyyyyyy to soon for the amount of blame Obama is being assigned. Let him earn it. That might be true if he hadn't delegated the Porkulus bill to Pelosi and Reid, signed it, mischaracterized it to the public, failed to address the banking system, miscalculated with Geithner, appointed tax cheats, lied about calling out those who insert earmarks, etc. He also compressed a lot into a short time frame, heeding Emanuel's advice to take advantage of a crisis. He's earned more blame than has yet been assigned.

To: Rambi who wrote (295868)	3/10/2009 12:59:05 PM
From: Bill	24 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793750

Obama's time in office is no defense of his actions during that time. If Bush had launched an attack on N. Korea after three weeks in office, would there have been people saying, "Oh come on, give him a chance, give him some time..."? Not a chance, because some actions are wrong on their face and do not require a lot of time in office to assess. Many people believe Obama has launched an attack on the economy with the mostly phony stimulus plan and an instant doubling of Bush's massive deficit. Many think he's launched an attack on integrity by nominating a series of tax cheats to his cabinet, violating his no lobbyist pledge and breaking his legislation transparency pledge. I know it's early, but he's already earned the criticism he's getting.

To: Rambi who wrote (295868)	3/10/2009 1:24:49 PM
From: DMaA	5 Recommendations Respond to of 793750

Not to speak for others but I believe you over state the case with the word "admire". I know many here admire him He had many personal admirable qualities but for the most part his policies, especially domestic, were antithetical to the principles generally held here.

To: Rambi who wrote (295868)	3/11/2009 8:17:53 PM
From: Neeka	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 793750

Yes.......most here are Conservative........but that is not the same thing as following a leader with blind admiration just because he talks well and says what we want to hear. I don't admire someone because he ran, and won a Presidential election, I admire what he does, and if he does what I think is right, I admire him. Leaders are leaders, they disappoint............and I for one am very disappointed with some of Bush's policies. I also admire some of his policies. If Barack Obama reduced taxes on small business I'd admire that, but it wouldn't mean I admire him. Unfortunately, Barack Obama uses straw man tactics every chance he gets........and has from the beginning.....and that is confusing (and rather distasteful imo)......but I don't think people here are "confused", they just want specifics, and we don't get a lot of those from this administration. I know many here admire him