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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (61348)	3/17/2009 12:35:34 PM
From: TideGlider	1 Recommendation Respond to of 224756

Thank you for posting more worthless garbage.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (61348)	3/17/2009 12:42:19 PM
From: DizzyG	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224756

8 Dems oppose quick debate on global warming bill By ANDREW TAYLOR - Associated Press Writer WASHINGTON -- Eight Senate Democrats are opposing speedy action on President Barack Obama's bill to combat global warming, complicating prospects for the legislation and creating problems for their party's leaders. The eight Democrats disapprove of using the annual budget debate to pass Obama's "cap and trade" bill to fight greenhouse gas emissions, a measure that divides lawmakers, environmentalists and businesses. The lawmakers' opposition makes it more difficult for Democratic leaders to move the bill without a threat of a Republican filibuster. Click here to find out more! The budget debate is the only way to circumvent Senate rules that allow a unified GOP to stop a bill through filibusters. "Enactment of a cap-and-trade regime is likely to influence nearly every feature of the U.S. economy," wrote the Democratic senators, mostly moderates. They were joined by 25 Republicans. "Legislation so far-reaching should be fully vetted and given appropriate time for debate." It takes 60 votes to overcome a filibuster in the Senate, but Democrats and allied independents currently control 58 seats. Under a cap and trade system, the government would auction off permits to emit greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide. The auctions would raise almost $650 billion over the next decade, with the cost passed on to consumers as higher energy prices. The cap and trade proposal is highly controversial, especially in heavily industrialized states and regions where people get their electricity from coal-fired power plants. Obama's promise to use most of the revenue to award $400 tax credits to most workers hasn't quelled the controversy since the increases in utility bills could easily exceed the amount of the tax cut. The Democrats who signed the letter, addressed to the chairman and top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, were: Robert Byrd, W.Va.; Blanche Lincoln, Ark.; Mary Landrieu, La.; Carl Levin, Mich.; Evan Bayh, Ind.; Ben Nelson, Neb.; Bob Casey Jr., Pa.; and Mark Pryor, Ark. The 25 Republicans were led by Sen. Mike Johanns of Nebraska. Fast-track budget rules were used to enact President George W. Bush's tax cuts and two major budget bills during the Clinton administration, including a 1993 measure that failed to win a single GOP vote. The House and Senate Budget committees are slated to vote on the budget resolution next week, with Senate debate scheduled for the week of March 30. There also has been speculation that the expedited rules could be used to pass a health care overhaul bill, but senior Senate Democrats such as Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., oppose the idea, saying health reform must be enacted on a bipartisan basis. The White House is open to the idea of using the fast-track rules for both global warming and health care. "We would prefer not to start there, but we're not taking anything off the table at this point," White House budget chief Peter Orszag said last week. macon.com And this support will grow...the "Global Warming" myth is going down in flames. LOL!

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (61348)	3/17/2009 12:46:12 PM
From: DizzyG	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224756

Looks like the Gaffmaster is at it again, Kenneth... youtube.com Do you think he kisses his mom with that mouth, Kenneth? LOL! Diz-

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (61348)	3/18/2009 1:05:06 PM
From: Little Joe	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224756

I would feel much better if Congress would commit Hari Kari. If you think this was a mistake you are a fool. Listen to the Crap. Dodd has no idea how the language which would have prevented the bonuses got amended out. Obama and McCain both claimed no large bonuses as a string to be attached to any bail out money and yet here we are. Whether Democrat or Republican these guys are playing the electorate like a fiddle and there are still some who are dumb enough not to see what is happening. lj