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To: RetiredNow who wrote (6364)	3/20/2009 7:32:39 AM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 86355

Nowruz? Got a video of Obama's Easter message where he tells the world how much Christianity has enriched it? My immediate reaction is I doubt there will be one. How many gays would Christians need to hang, how many women would need to be stoned to death to get Obama to kiss our ass and tell us how much he respects us? Everyone in the middle east recognizes the only reason Obama has issued a nowruz video is because Iran is close to getting nuclear weapons. Threaten America and get respect. It was true under Bush and its true under Obama. hard as nails under the table in private negotiations. LOL I find that difficult to believe. What private negotations anyway? We shouldn't give an inch privately, but we need to cater to their ego and pride publicly. That is how the Middle Eastern/Asian mind works. They DEMAND respect .... Bush never understood that. He came across as the cowboy who challenged them to a duel and he insulted them at every opportunity. Actually he did as much Muslim butt kissing as Obama: "Americans hold a deep respect for the Islamic faith, which is professed by a growing number of my own citizens," Bush said. "We know that Islam is fully compatible with liberty and tolerance and progress...Terrorists who claim Islam as their inspiration defile one of the world's great faiths." On November 19, 2001, Bush hosted a Ramadan fast-breaking dinner (an Iftar) at the White House for fifty Muslim ambassadors. The president said in his opening remarks that the United States is "made better by millions of Muslim citizens." On October 11, 2002, when commenting on U.S. humanitarian aid to Afghanistan, Bush stated about Islam: "Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions." On November 7, 2002, Bush hosted another Iftar at the White House "to help usher in the holy month of Ramadan." On October 24, 2003, Bush released an official presidential message on Ramadan in which he said that "people who practice the Islamic faith have made great contributions to our Nation and the world." On October 28, 2003, Bush hosted yet another Iftar at the White House with ambassadors and Muslim leaders. During this dinner he had a Muslim Imam lead in prayer. On October 15, 2004, Bush released another official presidential message on Ramadan in which he said that "Americans who practice the Islamic faith enrich our society and help our Nation build a better future." lewrockwell.com Its not hard to find this stuff. Obama's Nowruz message was EXACTLY the kind of thing Bush did. Why don't you know this? Where do you get your picture of the world? Do you believe every fantasy some liberal dreams up? islamicsupremecouncil.org Google bush or "white house" with ramadan or iftar or eid and see for yourself.

To: RetiredNow who wrote (6364)	3/20/2009 7:53:57 AM
From: RetiredNow	Respond to of 86355

In fact, some of the wisest words President Barack Obama has spoken since being elected came during the transition period, when the question of whether the government should simply take over General Motors and Chrysler was in the air. "We don't want government to run companies," Mr. Obama said on NBC-TV's "Meet the Press" in December. "Generally, government historically hasn't done that very well." That sentiment explains why, despite rampant speculation to the contrary, the administration has been straining to avoid nationalizing any banks or directly taking over auto makers. Nationalization would distort markets, create unfair advantages and introduce either political considerations or suspicions of political considerations into business decisions. online.wsj.com

To: RetiredNow who wrote (6364)	3/20/2009 1:36:52 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 86355

In an unusually swift reaction to Mr Obama's overture, Aliakbar Javanfekr, an aide to President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, said Iran welcomed "the interest of the American government to settle differences". But he said that the US government "should realise its previous mistakes and make an effort to amend them". In an almost simultaneous announcement, from Iran's energy minister, Parviz Fattah, said that the country would "finish and operate" its controversial Russian-built Bushehr nuclear plant by the end of the year. "Iran has chosen a direction for achieving peaceful nuclear energy. We have mainly reached this aim," he said at the World Water Forum in Istanbul. "Exactly 20 days from now we will have another celebration for celebrating the achievements we have gained for peaceful nuclear energy. You will hear about the news," he said. "Iran will finish and operate the Bushehr nuclear plant by the end of this year." He added that while Mr Obama's message to his country on the occasion of the Iranian New Year was "positive", it had to be followed by "positive action". "Absolutely this message is positive ... although it might also have negative points in itself as well," he said. "The Iranian leaders will precisely assess this message. We believe that we need that in addition to messages we need positive action from Mr Obama as well as from his government. So in addition to talk, we need actions." telegraph.co.uk

To: RetiredNow who wrote (6364)	3/21/2009 2:04:54 PM
From: Brumar89	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 86355

Iran's reply - Crowd chants Death to America as Supreme Leader denounces Obama and America: Iran's supreme leader dismisses Obama overtures By ALI AKBAR DAREINI – 6 hours ago TEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei dismissed overtures from President Barack Obama on Saturday, saying Tehran does not see any change in U.S. policy under its new administration. Khamenei was responding to a video message Obama released Friday in which he reached out to Iran on the occasion of Nowruz, the Persian new year, and expressed hopes for an improvement in nearly 30 years of strained relations. Khamenei holds the last word on major policy decisions, and how Iran ultimately responds to any concrete U.S. effort to engage the country will depend largely on his say. In his most direct assessment of Obama and prospects for better ties, Khamenei said there will be no change between the two countries unless the American president puts an end to U.S. hostility toward Iran and brings "real changes" in foreign policy. "They chant the slogan of change but no change is seen in practice. We haven't seen any change," Khamenei said in a speech before a crowd of tens of thousands in the northeastern holy city of Mashhad. In his video message, Obama said the United States wants to engage Iran, but he also warned that a right place for Iran in the international community "cannot be reached through terror or arms, but rather through peaceful actions that demonstrate the true greatness of the Iranian people and civilization." Khamenei asked how Obama could congratulate Iranians on the new year and accuse the country of supporting terrorism and seeking nuclear weapons in the same message. Khamenei said there has been no change even in Obama's language compared to that of his predecessor. "He (Obama) insulted the Islamic Republic of Iran from the first day. If you are right that change has come, where is that change? What is the sign of that change? Make it clear for us what has changed." Still, Khamenei left the door open to better ties with America, saying "should you change, our behavior will change too." Diplomatic ties between the U.S. and Iran were cut after the U.S. Embassy hostage-taking after the 1979 Islamic Revolution, which toppled the pro-U.S. shah and brought to power a government of Islamic clerics. The United States cooperated with Iran in late 2001 and 2002 in the Afghanistan conflict, but the promising contacts fizzled — and were extinguished completely when Bush branded Tehran part of the "Axis of Evil." Khamenei enumerated a long list of Iranian grievances against the United States over the past 30 years and said the U.S. was still interfering in Iranian affairs. He mentioned U.S. sanctions against Iran, U.S. support for Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein during his 1980-88 war against Iran and the downing of an Iranian airliner over the Persian Gulf in 1988. He also accused the U.S. of provoking ethnic tension in Iran and said Washington's accusations that Iran is seeking nuclear weapons are a sign of U.S. hostility. Iran says its nuclear program is only for peaceful purposes, like energy production, not for building weapons. "Have you released Iranian assets? Have you lifted oppressive sanctions? Have you given up mudslinging and making accusations against the great Iranian nation and its officials? Have you given up your unconditional support for the Zionist regime? Even the language remains unchanged," Khamenei said. Khamenei, wearing a black turban and dark robes, said America was hated around the world for its arrogance, as the crowd chanted "Death to America." Obama has signaled a willingness to speak directly with Iran about its nuclear program and hostility toward Israel, a key U.S. ally. At his inauguration last month, the president said his administration would reach out to rival states, declaring "we will extend a hand if you are willing to unclench your fist." "They say we have stretched a hand toward Iran. ... If a hand is stretched covered with a velvet glove but it is cast iron inside, that makes no sense," he said. Khamenei said sanctions only served to make Iran self-reliant. Iran frequently boasts of achievements in various technological fields, including uranium enrichment, space technology, missiles and passenger and fighter plane production, despite sanctions. "Sanctions benefited us. We have to thank the Americans in this sector. If sanctions had not been imposed, we would have not reached the point of progress and technology we are in now," he said. google.com