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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (16394)3/20/2009 2:42:21 PM
From: Logain Ablar  Respond to of 50024
 
SOTB:

A lot of these new FDIC fees are being passed along. I'm seeing it on my bank fees.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (16394)3/20/2009 2:49:36 PM
From: SARMAN1 Recommendation  Respond to of 50024
 
I've been pounding the table on this for months, and I wish
I could find the words to say it better...

Yep, I recall your post. If my memory serves me, your post was under the heading of "Controlled Demolition"



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (16394)3/20/2009 3:02:05 PM
From: Bill on the Hill5 Recommendations  Respond to of 50024
 
Slider gets it.
Santelli gets it.
I get it.

Denninger definitely gets it.

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market-ticker.org!.html

This is amazing; Brad Sherman is for taxing the hell out of bonuses for the explicit purpose of getting the government out of these firms. His view is simple: If you're working for Geithner, why should you make more than Geithner?

I like it.

You don't like having people working for $250,000 a year in total compensation or less? Fine - give back the damn money and run the firm any way you like.

If you, on the other hand, are such poor managers that you require the US Taxpayer to subsidize your operation then you cannot claim to have the "brightest and best"; you've proved you're wrong! So shut the hell up and accept both the money AND restrictions.

EXACTLY.

We need more Representatives like the HONORABLE Brad Sherman.

Many more.

The argument that "Congress made a mistake originally" is in fact an argument in SUPPORT of what they are doing here, not one against it. For if Congress made a mistake then correcting that mistake is required.

I love the whining about "contract law". Where were those complaining about this when AIG wrote CDS against no capital? Contract law calls that fraud folks - intentionally inducing someone into an agreement that you have no intention or ability to perform on. Further, we can do fraudulent concealment too, which is what the law calls it when you hide the fact that you're functionally insolvent for more than six months as it becomes apparent to you that you won't be able to perform, and while you know this, you draft "retention bonuses" for the very people that put your company in this position.

Never mind Goldman disclosing that they got 100% payouts on the AIG "contracts" that had no prayer in hell of being any good under the terms of that contract, because nowhere in that contract was a US Government guarantee!

All this whining is not only outrageous it is CRIMINAL and I for one am tired of it.

If "The Street" wants to throw a hissy fit and crash the markets over the fact that their fraud is now being met with outrage and punitive action then have at it.

They're lucky that the "punitive action" isn't coming in the form of 100 year prison terms or worse, angry mobs of citizens performing an 1873-style "banker hanging" on the lampposts, and might want to consider that if they keep this crap up the government and citizen response might morph into one of those other two possibilities.

I've long advocated for #1 but I'm getting darn close to where I'd cheer on those engaged in #2.

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Watch the video of Brad Sherman on Denningers post.

Go to the following thread and read the Ticker (first live link) then read the comments.

tickerforum.org

Denninger believes that a collapse of our system is imminent. Slide says to trade what is given and don't be a stupid bug. I think Slider and Denninger are closer to each other than many others after reading both for a few years. Mish as well of course. Should go without saying.

Take what is given, roll over and do it again. Don't get caught thinking gold will be a straight line up from here.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (16394)3/23/2009 9:45:35 AM
From: SliderOnTheBlack7 Recommendations  Respond to of 50024
 
Geithner's Plan: More Looting...whodathunkit?!?

Hmmm?

Here's the breakdown on the money behind Geithners plan:

$150 billion comes from the TARP.
$30 billion from "insider" fat cat private equity & hedge funds.
And $820 billion from the FDIC.

I guess now we know why the FDIC has been going into small,
local community banks and literally stealing their earnings...

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The FDIC is also adding a new "emergency fee" to small banks:

wbztv.com

"Clearly it's going to pull capital from banks at a time when
they need capital," said Keith Leggett, a senior economist at
the American Bankers Association. "I think it really requires
the FDIC to have the judgment of Solomon here."

online.wsj.com

From the WSJ article, here's a comment from a former FDIC
regulator, who's now a small banker:

" I was there, too as a regulator for the FDIC. Now, I'm a
banker - trying to employ people, lend money, pay competitive
rates, innovate, etc. Two years ago, we paid under $40,000 in
FDIC Insurance premiums. Now, we will pay close to $1 million
.
-- Mike Murphy"


A $960,000.00 increase in FDIC insurance for a small bank!?!?

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So now, we have the FDIC draining the earnings of honest,
strongly capitalized, and well managed local banks...
and using that money to backstop loans of taxpayer money
to fat cat "insider" hedge funds & private equity, so they
can make 6:1 leveraged low-ball bids on illiquid assets.

And unless we eliminate "mark to market" (which is another
lose:lose can of worms) these low ball bids will trigger
additional write downs and capital calls for Citi et al
when they sell, which means - more bailouts for the banks!

Can you say circle jerk?

...I knew you could.

75% of both consumer/credit card lending and mortgage/home
equity lending is concentrated in less than 7 banks.

And they are not lending.

Take a look at what JP Morgan Chase is doing...

They got billions of your TARP/taxpayer funds, and rolled up
deposits and assets of shotgun marriage's made by the Fed,
and are now hiking rates, adding fees, and looting the account
holders of those banks...

And in the ultimate act of arrogance, you can NOT talk to
anyone in person. Unhappy that JP Morgan Chase sat on your
payment and added on a bogus late fee? Unhappy because they
eliminated your remaining credit balance? Unhappy because
they hike the rate on your "paid as agreed" Visa card? Unhappy,
because they shut off your Home Equity line... and now your
credit score get's smacked, because you owe higher % balances
on your accounts?

You can talk to an outsourced third-world tele-center in India,
or the Phillipines, or you can email your complaint to a black
hole, or you can close your account. But, what you can not do,
is talk to anyone in America connected with JP Morgan Chase,
or who can do anything about your account.

Read these nightmare stories about what JP Morgan Chase is
doing to their "good" customers...

They're not expanding credit... they're shutting it off,
just like Meredith Whitney said in her CNBC interview last
week.

The Fed & Treasury, and the Bankster Gangsters get on TV and
lie to our faces about why they need more "of our money" so
they can make loans and increase liquidity.

When in fact, they are hiking rates, piling on junk fees,
and shutting of credit.

Read this, this is unbelievable...

People are getting unannounced retroactive rate hikes, and
getting bogus late fees, and junk fee's slapped on to their
accounts... and are being told by third world telecenter
workers, there is no one they can talk to, they can not do
anything about the charges, and the only option they have
is to close their account... and pay the looters fees!

Take 5-10 minutes and read this! Jamie Dimon should be
wearing a ski-mask the next time he appears for a softball
interview on CNBC.

consumeraffairs.com

And why hasn't Chris Dodd not been tar & feathered and run out
of Washington after lying in our faces last week?

Call your Senators and Congressman today, and demand Dodd's
resignation...

It's a start.

You can find the phone & fax numbers, as well as the email
address of your representatives at the links below:

senate.gov

congress.org

Send them the links to these articles and demand Dodd's
immediate resignation. No ethics committee investigations,
....an immediate resignation.

nypost.com

rollingstone.com

Mo Looting, Mo Later,

SOTB