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To: ChinuSFO who wrote (52393)	3/20/2009 9:56:25 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

I guess I figured you were in an area that had better schools. but overall, yes, you are right. but... when I was a child here in the 60's, ahem, the teacher's word was law. if I was actually right my mother would back me up, but it was understood that when the teacher called the class to order, children hushed and started to learn. now.... me being me, i was rather in trouble a lot. but in a 'light' way. and actually I moved from Texas to California between 4th and 5th grade and was shocked to find out what CA kids did not know. Not only could I already read near a so-called 12th grade level, I could do the math, except for fractions - never could figure them things. but it was expected. you shut up when the teacher calls order. and you start to learn. by 4th grade you can read a serios book. you can do all you math tables. period. then go from there. what has happened? if I talked out of place with a teacher or fought etc, I'd catch it at home. at home is where they first teach a child it is thier job to learn. you get all summer and weekends to play. that's enough.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (52393)	3/20/2009 10:12:56 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

American kids are nowhere near the level of performance of the kids from Asian countries. it is actually this i am trying to understand. because, yes, by 10 I could read at the 12th grade level. I was taught that and granted I had help and I ain't stupid. but still. And I was on the level in math, which is not my forte. so what has happened? what? I really do not think we need some big changes but why not go back to the 60's and teach children. apparently they knew how to do it then. I was brighter but not unusual. I knew no one who could not read in the 6th grade or do basic math. it was taught to us. and our parents expected us to learn it and did their part. you did not get to school not knowing your alphabet and your #'s. period. the problem is not finding all new ways to teach. just my opinion. I was taught history starting in 4th grade. it got deeper and deeper each year. I surely knew all countries by 7th grade. wft they teaching now? go back. sometimes going back is good. and parents should be reading to their childs and teaching them numbers from the start.

To: ChinuSFO who wrote (52393)	3/20/2009 10:15:25 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Respond to of 149317

p.s. teacher's unions is not the problem. parents not teaching their children, not turning off the tv, or letting the children know the teacher rules and do your homework... that is the problem. I had some screwy teachers. but people are people. it ain't unions. it is parents and stupid ideas on modern math and paretns who think their chilren can be rude to adult teachers and not do homework. it is up to the parents. learning is the job. one hour a night for tv or the computer. a couple of hours of outdoor play. the rest? homework.