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To: i-node who wrote (466115)3/24/2009 5:55:15 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1574796
 
Inode, > Eisenhower did NOT start the Vietnam war.

I was talking about the Domino Theory, which IIRC had its origins well before LBJ.

Ted thinks that whoever started the Domino Theory set in motion the gears of war. If so, then Clinton started the hunt for Saddam's WMD.

Tenchusatsu



To: i-node who wrote (466115)3/24/2009 11:44:45 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574796
 
Eisenhower did NOT start the Vietnam war.

The Geneva Conference

July 1954

In July of 1954, a conference was convened in Geneva in an attempt to resolve the problems in Indochina. Although an agreement was reached, its provisions were quickly violated and the plan never came to fruition. The agreement reached on the 20th and 21st of July included:

(1) the nation of Vietnam was guaranteed its independence

(2) national elections, under international supervision, would be held two years hence (July 1956)

(3) in the interim period, Vietnam would be divided at the 17th Parallel(just to the north of Hue on the map). Control of the north would be held by the Viet Minh forces led by Ho Chi Minh while control in the South would be held by forces who had fought with the French.

The United States disapproved of the agreement, did not sign the accord, and announced that it felt no obligation to abide by it. Instead, in September 1954, the United States became, along with Australia, France, Great Britain, New Zealand, Pakistan, the Philippines, and Thailand, a member of the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO). This alliance was designed to resist the spread of communism in southeast Asia.

Two Vietnams

Thereafter, the situation evolved such that there were two Vietnams. The north defined itself as the Democratic Republic of Vietnam. It became a communist regime led by Ho Chi Minh with its capital in Hanoi. The "southern" nation was called the Republic of Vietnam. It established its capital in Saigon (now Ho Chi Minh City) and was led by the French-educated Catholic, Ngo Dinh Diem. South Vietnam quickly became an ally of the United States and Diem was "our man" in Vietnam.

The rationale developed by the Eisenhower Administration to explain its economic and military support of South Vietnam became known as the "domino theory." Likening the countries of southeast Asia as a row of dominos, the President argued that if one country fell, it would trigger the fall of others (like a row of dominos). In The Irony of Vietnam: The System Worked (Brookings Institution, 1969), Leslie Gelb and Richard Betts point to the rise of a decision rule within the Eisenhower and subsequent administrations: "Do what was necessary to avoid losing South Vietnam by force." The history of the war is, in part, the growing economic, political, and human costs of "what was necessary" to prevent this domino from falling.

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To: i-node who wrote (466115)3/25/2009 12:42:30 AM
From: tejek  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574796
 
Now your people are calling the Obamas trash? The Rs subliminated racism is popping up everywhere. This R pundit sounds like she's going to have a breakdown. Crazy!

Tammy Bruce Calls the First Family "Trash in the White House'

Posted Mar 24th 2009 8:00AM
by Carmen Dixon

Top radio trash talker Tammy Bruce took her vocal derision of the First family to a new low today. Bruce hurled criticism after criticism at the First Lady in a rant that sounded like Bruce was unraveling on air. What triggered Bruce's tirade? Oh, that would be the First Lady's recent conversation with school children in which she shared that other kids had accused her of "talking white."

Listen to the idiot:

"I wanted the A for myself, and I wanted to do it, and ooh, they said you sounded like a white person, I don't know what that means, but uhh." Huh?

Man, oh, man. That's who he's married to, what does that tell you? This is what we've got -- you know what we've got? We've got trash in the White House. Trash is a, is a thing that is color blind, it can cross all eco -- ecosocionomic kind of categories, you can work on Wall Street or work at the Wal-Mart. Trash are people who use other people to get things, who patronize others, who consider you bitter and clingy. Source

This is typical of Bruce's racist non sequiturs. After all, Tammy Bruce has a very long history of making racially caustic remarks ...

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