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To: Road Walker who wrote (466794)3/28/2009 4:17:54 PM
From: tejek  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1578256
 
All of these cities are in the North.....most in the Midwest. My first reaction is to say their common problem is their climate but then there are cities like MPLS and Madison that are doing well, and others like Chicago that are holding their own. So then, is it just their industry mix, image, lack of opportunities...social, economic or cultural...or what?

Anyone have any thoughts on the subject? Z, were you anxious to get out of Albany? If so, why?

America's Downsized Cities

Lauren Sherman, 03.19.09, 02:00 PM EDT

The populations of these metropolitan areas are declining. Here's why.


In Depth: America's Downsized Cities In a way, it's the same old story: The Rust Belt, comprised of blue-collar cities where the manufacturing industry once dominated, can't seem to find a way to thrive.

Take Pittsburgh. Despite the fact that the city's steel industry began to deteriorate all the way back in the 1970s, the city is still better known for its mills than for its $10.8 billion stake in the technology and life-science sectors, including companies like Bayer (nyse: BAY - news - people ), BPL Global and Plextronics.

Same goes for Buffalo, N.Y. Once a great producer of steel and automobiles, the city's bioinformatics research industry is now flourishing. Yet just like Pittsburgh, Buffalo is shedding population.

In Depth: America's Downsized Cities

To be direct: If Bruce Springsteen, Billy Joel or John Mellencamp has written a melancholy song about your city, it's probably on this list.

And that's the problem. General perceptions of these Rust Belt cities--that they're backward, dilapidated and cultureless--are often too harsh. And that's why, over the last decade, these areas have seen the biggest decreases in population, according to the U.S. Census Bureau.

"Reputations die hard," says Kathryn Foster, director of the University at Buffalo's Institute for Local Governance and Regional Growth.

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The plight of these cities is double edged. A lackluster reputation often keeps potential newcomers away, while young adults born there tend to flee because of a lack of a diverse range of opportunities. However, many of those born and bred in the area do return when its time to "settle down," according to Foster.

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Yet Sean C. Safford, a business professor at the University of Chicago and author of Why the Garden Club Couldn't Save Youngstown: The Transformation of the Rust Belt, says that it has a lot more to do with a area's business infrastructure than its "ick" factor.

Youngstown, for example, "had an economy that basically grew up in another era," he says. When the steel industry began its decline in the 1970s, Youngstown moved on to another failing industry: autos. The few companies that have adapted to the new economy have kept globally competitive by outsourcing, which is good for their finances but bad for Youngstown.

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To determine America's Downsized Cities, we used 2008 population estimates for the 125 largest metropolitan statistical areas in the U.S., released Thursday by the Census Bureau. We compared those estimates with 2007 population estimates to determine the percent change year-over-year. Then we looked at the percent change in population from 2000 to 2007. We combined those two rankings--weighting down the more relevant 2007-2008 percent change--for a final ranking.

While migration has slowed in general, these metro areas saw an actual decrease in population, whereas others stayed flat or continued to grow, if at a decreased pace.

The state that's suffering the most is Ohio, with four cities on the list.

Topping the list is Youngstown, Ohio, which, like Pittsburgh, suffered from the decline of the steel industry and never fully recovered. Dayton is similarly depressed: Late last year, one of its biggest employers, General Motors (nyse: GM - news - people ), shut down its plant in the city. In Toledo, the unemployment rate is 9.8% (the national average is 8.1%), and manufacturing jobs decreased by 16% in January 2009 from January 2008.

And while the economy in Cleveland is diversified--from the Cleveland Clinic to NASA's Glenn Research Center to the headquarters of paint and building-supply company Sherwin-Williams (nyse: SHW - news - people )--it's not viewed as a shining star of the Midwest.

But Youngstown has it the worst, seeing the biggest population declines: a 0.8% drop from 2007 to 2008 and a 5.4% decrease from 2000 to 2007. Next was Flint, Mich., with a 1.2% drop from 2007 to 2008 and -0.3% from 2000 to 2007.

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Some metro areas, like Detroit, ranked fourth, and Flint (both of which continue to experience devastation as the U.S. automobile industry collapses), have enough systemic problems to continually drive their populations away. But other cities on the list do possess a few oft-overlooked bright spots, indicating that negative perceptions keep new residents from coming as quickly as others leave.

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Buffalo, for example, saw a 0.8% increase in housing value over the last year. Sure, the median home price is just $106,200, but home values have decreased by 30% in some parts of the country over that same period.

And in Youngstown, local officials have established the Youngstown Business Incubator, a nonprofit organization partially funded by the state government that aims to accelerate the growth rates of local tech start-ups.

But these positive notes can only help so much. Foster, whose job is to come up with business strategies to further develop Buffalo, says that what these areas really need is better marketing.

"When I moved to Buffalo, I carried the same misconceptions that most do. What I found was jaw dropping" she says of the city's architecture and cultural offerings. "Efforts to market the region are so important."

But Safford think it goes further than that. "It's about competitive companies," he says. "We'd all like to think that Seattle is popular because it's cool, but come one, it's because of Amazon and Microsoft: companies that generate cash. They're not stuck in the past."

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To: Road Walker who wrote (466794)3/28/2009 4:37:44 PM
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Some Real Estate Markets Warming Up

by Sara Clemence
Friday, March 27, 2009

When Carole and Jim Gourley started looking at vacation properties in Florida last December, they weren't all that serious. The retired couple, who live in Ontario, had rented in Panama City Beach for five winters. Stuck at home with a sick pet this year, Jim Gourley started browsing for foreclosures down south for fun.

"One thing led to another and we found a condo we liked the look of and decided to pursue it," Carole Gourley says. "We could not believe the prices that some of the properties were being listed for, especially since the one we liked is only four years old."

They ended up buying a three-bedroom condo in Bellasol, a development in Fort Myers, where prices currently range from $39,000 to $170,000. "We paid 25% of the original selling price," she says. "We feel that we got an extremely good deal.

The Gourleys are part of a new surge of buyer interest along Florida's Gulf Coast, where real estate websites are seeing a dramatic increase in traffic and local brokers are experiencing an uptick in inquiries and sales.

In housing markets around the country, there are signs that perhaps the bottom has been reached, and sales are beginning to come back up -- with prices hopefully to follow.

To get a handle on these rebounding markets, we asked real estate search firm Trulia to tell us the cities in which they have seen the greatest rise in searches -- a proxy for buyer interest -- over the last year

The result: Seven of the ten cities were in Florida, a poster state for the real estate boom and bust, and five were on the Gulf Coast side of the state.


Obviously, this isn't boom buying, wherein people are investing their money because prices are rising dramatically.

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"Basically, the market crashed so hard, prices have fallen so much, that places have become interesting to people again," says Mark Washburn, a realtor at Island Coast Realty in Ft. Myers who blogs about the local market.

Sales for Lee County, Fla., which includes Fort Myers and Cape Coral, were up nearly 80 percent from 2007 to 2008, he says. "That's pretty impressive. The caveat is the prices are half."

The same holds true in the other Florida markets, says Stan Geberer, associate at Fishkind & Associates, a real estate consulting firm based in Orlando. "Those are all places that have seen a 30 to 50 percent decline in prices over the past year or so," he says. "From the peak of the market they may be down even further than that."

According to the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight, in the fourth quarter of 2005, home prices rose 36 percent in the Cape Coral-Fort Myers area, 38.3 percent in the Naples-Marco Island area, and 28.2 percent in the greater Miami area. In just the last quarter of 2008, prices fell 32.9 percent, 32.8 percent and 24.1 percent respectively.

"Those areas saw the greatest levels of overbuilding, the greatest levels of speculation during the bubble," says Geberer. "[Southwest Florida] was a heavy area for starter home investors."

Those price declines are luring bargain hunters. Some are vulture investors, Geberer observes. Washburn is seeing people from north of the Mason-Dixon line, and many from Canada.

National real estate brokerage Coldwell Banker Real Estate is seeing buyers push life plans up as a result of the economy, and seeking deals on their retirement homes. First-time buyers are coming back into the market, says Jim Gillespie, president and CEO of Coldwell Banker Real Estate, thanks in part to federal incentives, which include a $8000 tax credit for first-time, residential buyers.

In the comeback markets, many of the deals are short sales or foreclosures. In last quarter of 2008, according to the National Association of Realtors, 45 percent of real estate transactions in the US were so-called distressed sales.

But Gillespie points out that there are also markets that have been strong all along; places like Columbus, Ga. Inventory is up there, but prices are too -- very, very slightly, about 1 percent. The same holds in Shreveport, La., and San Antonio, Texas, he says. "In most of the heartland of America, the prices are stable."

While it may not be an easy sell to consumers, he argues that it's a great time to buy: Interest rates are at historic lows, with high inventory levels, there's lots of choice, and prices are down.

"Once the inventory levels are burned off in those hardest hit states we'll have a balanced market," Gillespie says. "And things will start to go up."

Real Estate Markets Gaining Interest

City Search Rank in February 2008 Search Rank in February 2009 Change

Fort Myers, Fla. 39 13 +26

Cape Coral, Fla. 33 12 +21

Miami, Fla. 20 6 +14

Sarasota, Fla. 42 29 +13

Naples, Fla. 34 21 +13

Fort Lauderdale, Fla. 49 37 +12

Scottsdale, Ariz. 48 39 +9

Washington, D.C. 29 20 +9

Charlotte, N.C. 24 19 +5

Queens, N.Y. 13 9 +4

Tampa, Fla. 21 18 +3

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