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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (466830)	3/27/2009 1:09:36 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575357

Inode, I find it funny that those saying Social Security is "solid" are the same people who think trillions of dollars of deficit spending is just fine as long as it's a liberal who's doing it. It is a good point. The extent to which SS is "solid" or "not so solid" is a fairly objective thing. We know what the numbers are. But we have Mr. Analytical, himself (CJ), here trying to claim that liabilities aren't liabilities because someone chooses not to tell the public about them. And we have others acting as though the liability doesn't exist at all. The one common thread is the liberalism. Never let a good, objective analysis get in the way of a liberal's desire to support the party.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (466830)	3/27/2009 1:42:20 PM
From: bentway	Respond to of 1575357

"Remember, it's all about "ideology"" No, it's all about where and what on the ideology directs the spending. With the (R)'s it's rich people, cronys, corporations and foreign wars, with a few crumbs for useful idiots like you. With the (D)'s, it gets spread around more evenly, targeted at areas in actual need and stays at home.

To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (466830)	3/27/2009 2:37:09 PM
From: tejek	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1575357

Governors envision eco-friendly fuels at I-5 rest stops Gov. Chris Gregoire and her counterparts in Oregon and California are considering a plan they hope would help transform Interstate 5 from a freeway ruled by gasoline burners to a haven for eco-friendly cars and trucks. By Jennifer Sullivan Seattle Times staff reporter OLYMPIA — Gov. Chris Gregoire and her counterparts in Oregon and California are considering a plan they hope would help transform Interstate 5 from a freeway ruled by gasoline burners to a haven for eco-friendly cars and trucks. The three governors envision a series of alternative fueling stations stretching from the Canadian border to Mexico, creating what has been dubbed a "green freeway." As the plan stands, motorists eventually would be able to pull off at I-5 rest stops for more than a cup of coffee and roadside relief: They also would be able to charge, or swap out, their electric-vehicle batteries or fill their tanks with biodiesel, ethanol, hydrogen or compressed natural gas. The idea is drawing opposition from interest groups that say the state-approved stations would compete with nearby private businesses. But supporters say services for alternative-fuel vehicles are often tough to find near the 1,382-mile interstate. If approved, the project could begin in Washington as early as this coming summer. It would mark the first time U.S. drivers could travel a long stretch of freeway with easy access to alternative fuel. "We originally coined it the B.C.-to-Baja green highway," said Jeff Doyle, director of public-private partnerships at the Washington State Department of Transportation. "The three states are trying to find out if we can all march forward together." The fueling stations and battery swap-out docks would be the first businesses allowed by West Coast states to operate at rest stops, Doyle said. To help companies with their initial costs, they would not be charged rent until they started turning a profit, he said. The move would need to clear layers of local and federal approval. Supporters say the plan would fit with the nationwide push for green jobs and alternative-energy development, and put the states in line for some of the $15 billion in federal stimulus money dedicated to energy-related programs. Marty Brown, Gregoire's legislative liaison, said Gregoire, California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and Oregon Gov. Ted Kulongoski are beginning to figure out how to make the plan work. The three briefly discussed the idea last month during a meeting in Washington, D.C. Priming investment Doyle said he has been working with the Oregon and California transportation departments for months in developing a way to "partner with next-generation fuel providers to spur private investment." read more................ seattletimes.nwsource.com