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To: Sunny Jim who wrote (95816)3/27/2009 3:24:37 PM
From: koan1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 116555
 
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I stated that "With our higher cost of living which includes all of our social costs, we simply can't compete in the big picture with the emerging countries that don't have these costs. That's simply a fact of life in the 21st century. Increased unionization in the United States will not change this fact."<<

Well, I will give you credit for backing up your assertion.

In my defense let me say, I thought I was giving an answer. You posed an obvious problem. What I was trying to say is that I feel we need to figure out how to keep our standard of living despite the above.

You stated a problem and what you felt was the only result of that problem. I reject that premise.

You state: "it is a fact of life." I do not buy that it is a fact of life. It is a fact of life using your pardigm, but not if we can think of something new to mitigate that hurdle.

E.g. we are the bread basket of the world with the most sophisticated technology and a country full of resources including 1,000 years of carbon fuels.

If we are smart enough, we may very well be able to build a new economy working around the problems you state above e.g. building and consuming to a larger degree, internally.

In that event unions would not be the hurdle you suggest they would be, but instead, the economic leveler they have proven to be.

Another example would be to unionize farm workers. Low cost farm workers in other countries will have little impact on us if we control the food production of the world, which we do, using modern technology.



To: Sunny Jim who wrote (95816)3/27/2009 7:07:55 PM
From: Steve Lokness  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 116555
 
Sunny Jim;

we simply can't compete in the big picture with the emerging countries that don't have these costs

Oh horse pucky. Boeing does just fine as does Deere and Cat and Paccar as does Hog. Nobody touches our biotech industry despite some verrrrrrry lucrative jobs. (Although the last 8 years sure tried to give away that lead). Besides "our" social cost are considerable less than many European companies.

steve