To: bentway who wrote (466959 ) 3/27/2009 9:45:27 PM From: longnshort Respond to of 1571828 Fully automatic M16s, while made in the USA (or abroad under license) are military weapons sold to approved by State Dept. military units and governments abroad, then stolen and smuggled in to Mexico and elsewhere. Automatic weapons are not available in the USA over the counter and require paperwork, background checks, huge fees and approval and subsequent regular inspections of the privately-owned arm by BATF. BATF has not reported thefts or loss of personally owned Class III (Full auto selective fire). BATF should be able to provide you back-trace information proving that the weapons seized in Mexico, while made here or abroad under license, were stolen from the end-user, illegally acquired and smuggled in to Mexico by the Cartels from elsewhere than the US. Class III Automatic weapons are not available at US Dealers and Gun shows and only through Class IIIBATF approved dealers for sale to approved purchasers after arduous examination. Grenades and RPGsare not available for sale anywhere domestically and the only source is by thefts from military arsenals, which are very few if federal stats are any indication. Combloc grenades are easier to obtain and much cheaper.That has traditionally gone south from the USA since 1912 have been pistols, hunting rifles and shotguns, purchased by Mexican-American citizens holding dual citizenship, gang members and affiliates, legal immigrants (who may purchase per federal law) and Mexican Police and Judicial Federales who also happen to possess a US Driver's License, which is all the documentation required for completing a BATF Domestic Firearm Registration/Sales form 4473. These parties still to this date purchase lawful firearms in the US and smuggle them south. If they have a US State Driver's license they may do so and a Driver's license is easy to acquire. That they lie on these forms is manifestly evident. waketheflockup.com