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To: Snowshoe who wrote (195169)4/7/2009 4:44:50 AM
From: Elroy JetsonRespond to of 306849
 
I looked up what I know about the Moldova house in Google Maps when energyplay suggested it to me.

The "new house" Michael Zoti lived in with his wife and children is likely near this village, Horjesti, shown in this link. panoramio.com

This is based on the description of this home on Turkish Hill, written in Russian on the back of the photo shown below.

I have no idea how far Michael's home was from his parent's rather distinctive farm house - we have no formal address, but it was on one of their farms. Since he was managing his Dad's 36 farms it shouldn't be too far from his parent's home. If it still exists, I'm sure someone might recognize it from the photo, if anyone goes to Moldova like SI member Haim R. Branisteanu. The entire nation is pretty small.

As everything name in Russian is now Romanian, according to this website, it appears Karpinen is now Carpineni. fallingrain.com

Google Maps places the Carpineni postal station in what is now the middle of an farm field south of Kishinev, which in Romanian is Chisnau. So that's right. So the new home should be 4.5 km from that spot in the farm field - in which direction I don't know.

Within a 4 km radius there are a few large buildings that look like fairly new farm buildings and also what is clearly the residential area in the first link.




To: Snowshoe who wrote (195169)4/7/2009 5:24:27 AM
From: Elroy JetsonRespond to of 306849
 
Carpineni certainly looks agricultural. The description below mentions a Turcului Valley, so no doubt there is still a Turcului Hill.

I'm actually quite curious now. Where's that house?

carpineni.del.md . carpineni.del.md



Google-translated (such as it is) from Romanian

History of town

Mentioned for the first time on 1 June 1768 with the name "Carpinenii from Sarata, situated on the site of the current estate Seliste, Carpineni will move the current center location of the village around 1812, where it will merge with Seliste Scortesti, and Margelati tacu attested to 1482.
In the first half of the century XX century Carpineni Topor will manage the village, which will merge to become a suburb of Carpineni. Carpineni of 1986 will receive administrative and Horjesti village located 4 km SE.

About the origin toponymical Carpineni not speak anything, there are several hypotheses about the etymology of this word.
St. Holban opinion is that the village name comes from a gentlewoman, who was called Carpineanca and that would have belonged to the village before the sell-ray and some came from elsewhere, and which would be decided Seliste displacement of the village, attracting them and the villagers.

A. Jeremiah felt the same, says toponymical could represent plural anthroponomical Carpineanu, who is currently certified by the antroponimele Carpineni as well as in other localities. A. Jeremiah, but does not exclude another explanation of toponymical Carpineni "toponymical is made on behalf hornbeam tree (Carpinus Butulus) and the suffix-eni which indicate the origin of the inhabitants." Carpinenii therefore should not have to mean "people from a place called hornbeam.

The second version seems to be correct in the following cases:

• hornbeam trees, very rare in Bessarabia, are met, although few in number, in the Great Forest that is beside the estate Seliste the old abode of Carpineni.

• Valley Seli and lime and what Turcului Valley near the village unite Oracle is called Valley hornbeam (25km) and Carpineni Valley (15km). Valley Village next Carpini Oracle changes its name to Valley Oracle.

• Tenants are razaseasca home, so could not belong to the estate of a proprietarese, but could lease such land.
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