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To: Nicholas Thompson who wrote (16805)4/7/2009 11:57:46 PM
From: jmiller0991 Recommendation  Respond to of 50749
 
It is both this one and the prior one.

EDIT: because I figure this point may be lost in my insinuation. If one predecessor tramples rights in a larger magnitude, this does not make a lessor degree of rights trampling acceptable.



To: Nicholas Thompson who wrote (16805)4/8/2009 8:45:17 AM
From: SliderOnTheBlack7 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50749
 
re" ["It is interesting to me that with all this worry
about govt. taking guns and phones; it has been the last
administration (Bush) which tramped on our rights."]

True.

But the bigger point is this...

There has been - no change.

A point, I pray the Obama supporters soon realize, because
this is not about right vs. left, Republican vs. Democrat, or
Bush vs. Obama.

That's what they hope we make it, and that's what
they hope we focus on, all the while... the same
original "Bush" agenda moves forward at break neck speed.

Later tonight I will post a link to the documentary film that
will clearly show you that agenda. It's not Bush's agenda, nor
is it Obama's agenda. They're merely the pitchmen. Mere puppets
and messengers.

You'll see who's agenda it is.

It's what this G-20 meeting was really all about.

They told you they wouldn't miss the opportunity of
using this crisis... and they aren't.

And you'd better believe them... after all, they created it.

Hopefully this documentary film will open your eyes.

They will show you their agenda.

Their actions while cloaked in lies, will be plain to see.

And it will be their words, not mine - that will convince you.

And it will be a Darwin test for all of America. Because if
after watching this film, "you don't get it" - you never will.

I hope this film will create some honest discussion.

I already know that most of you won't watch it, as it's a
full two hours long, and into today's world of pandemic
attention deficit disorder, and a Bread & Circuses overload,
few will make the time.

I hope you make the time, and I promise you, it won't
be a waste of your time.

And in a couple more days, I'll post the 2nd documentary,
one that will sadly be a crystal ball looking into America's
future.

The first film will clearly show you their agenda.

The second film will clearly show you their history.

A history you won't accept, until you realize what the
agenda is, and always has been.

Thomas Jefferson spoke to the political environment America
now finds itself within today...

“Single acts of tyranny may be ascribed to the accidental
opinion of a day; but a series of oppressions, begun at a
distinguished period and pursued unalterably through every
change of ministers, too plainly prove a deliberate,
systematic plan of reducing [a people] to slavery.”

-- Thomas Jefferson
3rd US President
Author of the Declaration of Independence.


What Jefferson said is this...

When we see a complete change in political parties (ministers),
from Bush to Obama and from a Republican Congress to Democrat,
and yet the same agenda continues unabated, you will know
you are being governed by others than those you elected,
and are living under tyranny.

Americans no longer have a voice in the political process.

Those we elected are mere rubber stamps, who vote on bills
without reading them at the behest of committee chairmen,
and lobbyists.

Those bills are not written by those we elected, but instead,
by the lobbyists representing multi-national corporations and
international bankers whose loyalties lie with no state,
and by those elites who are members of NGO's and Think Tanks
who not only write the policies for government, but whom
dominate it's key positions, and govern by fiat.

S.O.T.B.

"If Tyranny and Oppression come to this land,it will be
in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."

-- James Madison

So it was written, and so it is being done...
in the name of an invisible enemy - the war on terror.

PS: Did you see Rick Santelli quoting the new
study that reiterates the obvious...

That this is not a liquidity problem, it's a solvency problem.

That the big Wall Street banks are bankrupt, but the local
bank of Main Street is not, and this is all about Main Street
bailing out Wall Street.

A massive transfer of wealth, from taxpayers pockets to
those on Wall Street.

They got all the profits, and we pay for all the losses.

And any taxpayer money being handed over to these banks,
is not going to the consumer, is not going to solve the
insolvency problem, and is going counter-party insiders
like Goldman, hedge funds and offshore banks who are
gaming the system... ie: it's going down a black hole.

All the while America is told that it's our fault, because
of our profligate spending, and the unwind of a subprime
bubble that "no one" saw, or anticipated.

...yeah right, that's why everyone used Fannie & Freddie as
a toxic waste dump and didn't hold onto these loans themselves.

And that's why the Investment Banks wrote trillions upon
trillions of ponzi-scheme derivative paper insurance on
on these mortgage backed securities...and why they passed
the new Bankruptcy reform laws just before the bubble burst.

This is a DERIVATIVES problem - period.

And until the derivatives problem is addressed, and unwound,
the problem will never be solved, and the banking system
will remain non-functional and insolvent.

J.P. Morgan holds 9 x the derivatives of AIG.

Why won't the mainstream press, or CNBC address the
"800 lbs. Derivatives Gorilla" in the room - JPM?



To: Nicholas Thompson who wrote (16805)4/9/2009 1:04:24 PM
From: yard_man5 Recommendations  Respond to of 50749
 
what you don't say is: Once government takes away liberty -- the next bozo will simply use the means to a different ends -- governments are never in the business of "giving back" liberty to it's citizens, i.e. there was a reason the founding fathers labored over the constitution ... they wanted a limited government.

Whenever I talk to people -- ANYONE -- concerning this they ALL say the same thing; " It's going to take a lot more than a tea party, now!!"

Did they get that from FOX TV -- or does everyone realize they've been in the pot for years and now it has reached full boil??