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To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (469960)4/8/2009 11:36:46 PM
From: SilentZ  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577858
 
>The elimination of the secret ballot.

They're not eliminating it. It just isn't the primary means anymore unless it's what the employees want.

>>> Workers’ immediate supervisors often meet individually with employees to urge them to oppose their co-workers’ efforts to form a union. Frequently, supervisors keep tallies of whether individual workers support the union and report back to higher-ups about individual employees’ views on union representation. Therefore, even if there is a secret ballot election, individual employees’ views are often anything but “private.”

>That is a very weak justification. How the heck do supervisors know which individual workers support the unions if the ballots are secret?

They do find out... that's just the way it works in practice. And they hold mandatory anti-union sessions and do all sorts of things to keep unions from forming, many of which aren't legal. The problem is that when union elections are held on one specific date, it lets corporations put tons of resources into focusing on that specific date. In practice, it really does nip unionization in the bud.

Frankly, I think it should be even easier to unionize. I feel like most workers working for companies bigger than ____ size (I don't know exactly what that size should be) should be unionized. I mean, a corporation is essentially a union of executives...

-Z



To: Tenchusatsu who wrote (469960)4/9/2009 12:09:15 AM
From: i-node  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 1577858
 
>> The unions are not being honest, which is a big red flag to me.

I saw an interview a couple weeks ago with a few people who had voted with union representatives present. To a person, they declared it to be "intimidating". The employees ultimately rejected the union, but it is clearly one of the most un-American things I can think of -- to insist that votes be cast under the watchful eye, in effect, of one of the candidates.

I was pleased to see that our liberal "vote with Obama" senator, Lincoln, has said she'll oppose card-check. She knows this is not going to be popular with her constituency.