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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (62792)4/9/2009 3:49:54 PM
From: tntpal5 Recommendations  Respond to of 224717
 
If Australian dry weather means global warming - then the Dustbowl in the 1930s would have too - no Science there at all...
Dah, Just Al Gore lobotomy stuff...



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (62792)4/9/2009 4:16:30 PM
From: lorne1 Recommendation  Respond to of 224717
 
ken..I included your state so you can go protest...with acorn of course.

The entire list of tea party cities is to large to post but can be seen at this web site.

ACORN to crash Tax Day tea parties?
Activist group plans rallies, blasts 'gripe fest by bunch of conservatives'
April 08, 2009
By Chelsea Schilling
© 2009 WorldNetDaily
wnd.com

With only one week left before citizens in 2,000 U.S. cities take to the streets in protest of government spending this Tax Day, will ACORN and the Huffington Post crash the party?

ACORN spokesman Charles Jackson told WND his group will be rallying on the same day.

"ACORN is going to be engaged in a series of rallies across the country on April 15 in support of the priorities outlined in President Obama's first budget – investments in education, health care, and getting Americans back to work," Jackson said.

He continued, "This is the first we've heard of these 'tea parties' and, frankly, a gripe-fest by a bunch of conservatives whose preferred economic policies got us in this mess in the first place is of no interest to us."

Some say it would be a very difficult task to take over a grass-roots movement so large. The American Family Association is reporting tea parties for 1,856 cities Wednesday, and WND has confirmed information for more than 450 protests.

Fox News' Neil Cavuto reports "over-caffeinated crashers" plan to show up at Tax Day tea parties. He said he has received reports of "very well-organized infiltrators trying to mix in and rain on this parade."

In addition to ACORN rallies for Tax Day, the Huffington Post has organized an online sign up for anyone to attend the events on behalf of its organization as "citizen journalists."

"The Huffington Post wants to have citizen journalists at as many of these events as possible," the website states. "If you think you'd be interested in attending one of the Tea Parties and reporting back to us with dispatches, photos, or video, click here to sign up. We'll contact you shortly with further instructions."

A link takes readers to a sign-up page where the Huffington Post explains, "On tax day, April 15, there will be protests with conservative movement leaders across the country, railing against government and high taxes. HuffPost is developing a citizen reporting team to keep track of this movement."

Cavuto asked Mark Meckler, organizer for the Sacramento tea party, if he is concerned about infiltration threats.

"We don't take them seriously at all," he replied. "It's not that they don't exist. We expect people to attempt to infiltrate. We expect people to attempt to disturb what we're doing. But the reality is that this is a very broad-based grassroots movement. There is no leader of the event at the top. There is no individual event that they could disturb that could cause us a problem nationwide."

Meckler said he invites everyone to come to Tax Day tea parties.

"We don't care whether they are from ACORN, the Huffington Post, Daily Kos, we want them all there," he said. "We're excited to have them all attend."

But Cavuto warned that he is receiving early reports that infiltrators will try to make the tea parties look like they are fringe group efforts and, in extreme cases, racist undertakings.

"I think I would liken it to what I tell my kids when they're on the field in a soccer game. You let your game speak for itself," Meckler said. "The people understand what these movements are about. The people who are involved understand that they are not racist. They're not fringe. They're not even partisan.

"These are events where we've got people across the board – Democrats, Republicans, conservatives, liberals, Libertarians, you name it," Meckler continued. "Everybody's coming out to these events. We're not worried about these folks polluting the event."

Meanwhile, a Google Maps list shows hundreds of locations of citizen tea parties – so many that the United States is nearly hidden behind a sea of red markers.

Many organizers are encouraging tea party attendees to bring a cell phone and call the president, 202-456-1414, and Congress, 202-224-3121, while at the rallies.

Organizers of the Tampa tea party produced this short video encouraging citizens to fight massive government spending by joining April 15 tea parties in their own cities:

In response to the group's YouTube video, one person wrote, "Hey conservatives!! Nice to see you finally learned to use a computer. Looking forward to filming you wasting tea like you wasted our retirement funds. See you Tuesday! (sic)"

The counter-protester or "infiltrator," identified only as "Texpeare," appeared to have been misinformed – as Tax Day is Wednesday, April 15.

WND has launched its own tea party forum so citizens may exchange ideas, information and announcements about the "revolution." After reviewing various website protest listings and e-mails from many readers, WND found more than 450 tea parties scheduled for upcoming months and compiled one of the most complete lists on the Internet. Here are some scheduled tea parties:

Washington

Anacortes – Wednesday, April 15, from 12 p.m. to 6 p.m, corner of 12th and Commercial Avenue, call 360-293-7044

Bellingham – Wednesday, April 15, from 4p.m. to 6 p.m, Guide Meridian near Bellis Fair Parkway

Bellevue – Wednesday, April 15, 12 p.m., City Hall Park

Everett – Wednesday, April 15, time and location to be announced

Kennewick, Richland, Pasco – Wednesday, April 15, from 6 p.m. to 7 p.m., John Dam Plaza, located between George Washington Way and Jadwin Avenue, north of Knight Street

Mt. Vernon – Wednesday, April 15, from 12 p.m. to 7 p.m. on corner of College Way and Riverside Drive (1 block from freeway exit)

Olympia – Wednesday, April 15, at 12 p.m. on the capitol steps

Seattle – Wednesday, April 15, from 5:45 p.m. to 7:45 p.m., Westlake Park by the arch, 410 Pine St., downtown Seattle

Spokane – Wednesday, April 15, from 9 a.m. to 10:30 a.m., location to be announced

Spokane – Wednesday, April 15, from 4:30 pm to 6 p.m., Spokane Convention Center on Spokane Falls Blvd.

Vancouver – Saturday, April 18, from 11 a.m. to 1 p.m. at the Clark County Courthouse lawn

Yakima – Wednesday, April 15, from 3 p.m. to 5 p.m., west side of Yakima County Courthouse

Complete list>>>>
wnd.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (62792)4/9/2009 4:18:07 PM
From: Bald Eagle2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224717
 
Hope and change? Obama voters lose their jobs!

Job cuts needed to stop NY bankruptcy

breitbart.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (62792)4/9/2009 4:20:08 PM
From: Bald Eagle2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224717
 
Yup, there were never any droughts before the automobile .. LOL
Try reading the bible, Kenneth, no cars back then, but there were droughts and famines.



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (62792)4/9/2009 4:29:05 PM
From: Justin C2 Recommendations  Respond to of 224717
 
Well, Trolling For Leg Tingles With Kenneth has again tossed out the Global Warming hoax (lie). Should be good for a mild twitch or two for poor Kenneth. LOL

What will global warming look like? Scientists point to Australia



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (62792)4/9/2009 4:29:19 PM
From: Bald Eagle4 Recommendations  Respond to of 224717
 
Obama the war monger:Obama seeks another $83 billion for Iraq, Afghanistan

cnn.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (62792)4/9/2009 5:06:42 PM
From: DizzyG1 Recommendation  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 224717
 
French will need a parka because Earth is cooling

Published: April 09, 2009 8:00 AM

Re: “Evidence is the on the side of climate change” by Diana French.

Yes, Ms. French, there is evidence on the side of climate change, and that evidence is becoming more and more observable that we are in for a long cold snap lasting the next 25 to 30 years.

Simply jump on your laptop computer and check it out for yourself.

There is a fine article that can be found at www.globalresearch.ca called “Global Cooling is here” which is written by Professor Don J. Easterbrook of the Department of Geology, Western Washington University.

The article in very succinct fashion explains the correlation between both the Pacific Decadal Oscillations and North Atlantic Oscillations and the subsequent global warming or cooling trends.

Basically the correlation says that when the two oceans are in a warm temperature mode the world experiences “global warming” and conversely goes into “global cooling” when in a cool temperature mode.

Easterbrook has tracked this correlation with global warming and cooling periods over the last 15,000 years.

During the period from 1977 to 1998 the oceans were in a warm temperature mode which resulted in “global warming.”

Since 1998 the average world temperatures have not warmed, but in fact dropped slightly until 2007/2008 when the global temperature dropped between 0.65C and 0.75C, (depending on area), completely wiping out most of the global warming recorded over the last 100 years.

The oceans oscillate between warming and cooling every 25 to 30 years. According to NASA satellite imagery, the Pacific Decadal Oscillation has now switched to a cooling trend, effective 2008. (As a note, this past Cariboo winter has been one of the longest and coolest I’ve experienced in many years).

Another fine set of articles can be found at www.dailytech.com, which are compiled by Michael Asher.

The articles this time show a correlation between sun spot activity and “global warming.”

In the compiled articles, several scientists, including Canada’s very own Dr. Kenneth Tapping (a solar researcher and project director for Canada’s National Research Council), have found that sun-spot activity has all but vanished, resulting in cooler global weather patterns.

The scientists claim that solar activity is a much larger driver of climate change than anthropogenic C02 emissions, which account for only .0008 per cent of atmospheric C02.

Dr. Tapping is concerned that if sun spot activity remains dormant, we will soon be heading for a “Little Ice Age.”

According to the University of Illinois Artic Climate Research Centre’s satellite observations of the Northern and Southern Hemisphere Polar Regions, arctic sea ice has rebounded to levels not seen since 1979, (article from January 2009).

As Easterbrook points out, “The real danger in spending trillions of dollars trying to reduce atmospheric CO2 is that little will be left to deal with the very real problems engendered by global cooling.” I concur.

Make sure you buy a new parka Ms French, you’re going to need it.

bclocalnews.com



To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (62792)4/9/2009 6:54:50 PM
From: lorne2 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 224717
 
ken...."What will global warming look like? Scientists point to Australia"....

I posted this earlier...look at what your lunatic idols are thinking of doing... these people are dangerous fools. They are without a doubt NUTS.

AP Newsbreak: Obama looks at climate engineering

Apr 8 03:01 PM US/Eastern
By SETH BORENSTEIN
AP Science Writer
breitbart.com

WASHINGTON (AP) - The president's new science adviser said Wednesday that global warming is so dire, the Obama administration is discussing radical technologies to cool Earth's air. John Holdren told The Associated Press in his first interview since being confirmed last month that the idea of geoengineering the climate is being discussed.
One such extreme option includes shooting pollution particles into the upper atmosphere to reflect the sun's rays. Holdren said such an experimental measure would only be used as a last resort.

"It's got to be looked at," he said. "We don't have the luxury of taking any approach off the table."

Holdren outlined several "tipping points" involving global warming that could be fast approaching. Once such milestones are reached, such as complete loss of summer sea ice in the Arctic, it increases chances of "really intolerable consequences," he said.

Twice in a half-hour interview, Holdren compared global warming to being "in a car with bad brakes driving toward a cliff in the fog."

At first, Holdren characterized the potential need to technologically tinker with the climate as just his personal view. However, he went on to say he has raised it in administration discussions.

Holdren, a 65-year-old physicist, is far from alone in taking geoengineering more seriously. The National Academy of Science is making climate tinkering the subject of its first workshop in its new multidiscipline climate challenges program. The British parliament has also discussed the idea.

The American Meteorological Society is crafting a policy statement on geoengineering that says "it is prudent to consider geoengineering's potential, to understand its limits and to avoid rash deployment."

Last week, Princeton scientist Robert Socolow told the National Academy that geoengineering should be an available option in case climate worsens dramatically.

But Holdren noted that shooting particles into the air—making an artificial volcano as one Nobel laureate has suggested—could have grave side effects and would not completely solve all the problems from soaring greenhouse gas emissions. So such actions could not be taken lightly, he said.

Still, "we might get desperate enough to want to use it," he added.

Another geoengineering option he mentioned was the use of so-called artificial trees to suck carbon dioxide—the chief human-caused greenhouse gas—out of the air and store it. At first that seemed prohibitively expensive, but a re-examination of the approach shows it might be less costly, he said.