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To: MichaelSkyy who wrote (71025)	4/10/2009 7:55:09 PM
From: mph	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

What he's really saying is that he believes Obama. And anybody who actually believes what Obama has to say is, by definition, a fool. The man lies as easily as he breathes.

To: MichaelSkyy who wrote (71025)	4/11/2009 12:11:58 AM
From: FJB	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Since we have never heard Obama utter a word in support of Wright's now infamous rantings, it's pretty safe to say 1) Obama wasn't there for those rants, which is a matter of record You are calling Obama stupid. How could you listen to them speak for 20 years and call them your "spiritual mentor" with no understanding of their core beliefs?

To: MichaelSkyy who wrote (71025)	4/11/2009 12:56:57 AM
From: Sully-	2 Recommendations Respond to of 90947

I liked Michael D. Cummings reply to Comrade Baker's ostrich hatched rumination: <<< Sorry Dale, but this post is really a ridiculous Obama apologist assertion. Wright was his spiritual guide and mentor for 20 years. If he didn't know he ranted the way he did in church, he was either willfully blind, or dense to the core. It's more reasonable to assume Obama heard and quietly ascribed to many of Wrights rantings, believing the good he did in the local neighborhoods of Chicago, and the political connections he obtained, outweighed the outrageous rantings in church. His willingness to apologize to heads of state around the world for America's shortcomings, during the latest rock tour, align with this model. I do believe there is hope. The man is relatively young, both in spirit and in body. If he doesn't encircle himself completely with far left wing Nancy Pelosi types, he may learn to be more centrist, because, he now actually has to make decisions and not simply vote absent, or pontificate from the lecture hall on difficult issues in an often hostile environment. >>> siliconinvestor.com

To: MichaelSkyy who wrote (71025)	4/11/2009 12:59:43 AM
From: Sully-	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

And our "pseudo elitist POS" Comrade Baker buries his head back in the sand after responding to Michael thusly: <<< "Assume what you like for your models, that's all they are, assumptions and deductions. I'll stick with what the man says and does." >>> siliconinvestor.com

To: MichaelSkyy who wrote (71025)	4/11/2009 1:13:42 AM
From: FJB	1 Recommendation Respond to of 90947

My error, thought those were your thoughts regarding Obama. I am sorry for confusing you with the original author.

To: MichaelSkyy who wrote (71025)	4/11/2009 7:05:45 PM
From: Brumar89	5 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

Dale Baker is a liar. "white folks greed runs a world in need" was from the first Jeremiah Wright sermon Obama heard. Obama quotes that passage from the sermon in Dreams of My Father and named his second book after the sermon. Page 293 (paperback edition): On his radio show yesterday, Hugh Hewitt played excerpts of Barack Obama reading from his autobiography, Dreams of My Father. In one, Obama remembers a sermon by Rev. Jeremiah Wright: [T]he pastor described going to a museum and being confronted by a painting title Hope. "The painting depicts a harpist," Revernd Wright explained, "a woman who at first glance appears to be sitting atop a great mountaintop. Untill you take a closer look and see that the woman is bruised and bloodied, dressed in tattered rags, the harp reduced to a single frayed string. Your eye is then drawn down to the scene below, down to the valley below, where everywhere are the ravages of famine, the drumbeat of war, a world groaning under strife and deprivation. It is this world, a world where cruise ships throw away more food in a day than most residents of Port-au-Prince see in a year, where white folks' greed runs a world in need, aprtheid in one hemisphere, apathy in another hemisphere ... That's the world! On which hope sits." And so it went, a meditation on a fallen world. While the boys next to me doodled on their church bulletin, Reverend Wright spoke of Sharpesville and Hiroshima, the callousness of policy makers in the White House and in the State House. ... [E.A.] Sounds ... controversial! Keep in mind: a) Obama isn't disapproving of this sermon. In the book he weeps at the end of it; b) Demonstrating that at least some blaming of "white greed" for the world's sins--which Obama now criticizes-- isn't an exceptional topic for Rev. Wright in a few wacky sermons ("the five dumbest things") that Obama may or may not have missed. It's at the quotidian core of the Afrocentric philosophy that Obama says drew him to the church; c) Indeed, in his big March 18th race speech Obama reads the passage from his book that describes his emotional reaction to this very sermon (his "first service at Trinity")--how it made "the story of a people" seem "black and more than black." d) This is also the sermon that gave Obama the title of his next book, The Audacity of Hope. e) The "profound mistake" of this sermon is not that Wright "spoke as if our society was static"--Obama's analysis on Feb. 18th. The problem is that "white folks' greed" is not the main cause of a "world in need." ..... Wright's sermon at Obama's very first service, highlighted in his book and his 3/18 speech as an epiphanic moment, was controversial and objectionable enough. And it didn't make him leave the church. It made him join the church. slate.com

To: MichaelSkyy who wrote (71025)	4/11/2009 10:47:42 PM
From: Sully-	1 Recommendation Respond to of 90947

Me - I distinctly remember candidate Obama lecture us about our wasteful & gluttonous ways. Oh ya, this is what he said; "We can't drive our SUVs and eat as much as we want and keep our homes on 72 degrees at all times . . . and then just expect that other countries are going to say OK." Ah, the perks of being the Pres Betsy's Page When the Obamas order out for pizza, they order out all the way to St. Louis. <<< When you're the president of the United States, only the best pizza will do - even if that means flying a chef 860 miles. Chris Sommers, 33, jetted into Washington from St Louis, Missouri, on Thursday with a suitcase of dough, cheese and pans to to prepare food for the Obamas and their staff. He had apparently been handpicked after the President had tasted his pizzas on the campaign trail last autumn. >>> I guess it's all part of Obama's personal stimulus efforts. betsyspage.blogspot.com