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To: greenspirit who wrote (108287)4/10/2009 11:04:21 PM
From: Dale Baker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 541544
 
Assume what you like for your models, that's all they are, assumptions and deductions. I'll stick with what the man says and does.



To: greenspirit who wrote (108287)4/11/2009 5:18:25 AM
From: Cogito  Respond to of 541544
 
>>Sorry Dale, but this post is really a ridiculous Obama apologist assertion. Wright was his spiritual guide and mentor for 20 years. If he didn't know he ranted the way he did in church, he was either willfully blind, or dense to the core.

It's more reasonable to assume Obama heard and quietly ascribed to many of Wrights rantings, believing the good he did in the local neighborhoods of Chicago, and the political connections he obtained, outweighed the outrageous rantings in church. <<

Michael -

Wright said some pretty outrageous things in the two or three sermons that got wide play on the air on on YouTube.

Back when this issue came up during the campaign, I took the time to look at the many, many other Wright sermons that were available on YouTube. I posted links to some of them on this thread. Most of them were very typical Christian stuff - often quite lyrical expositions on the love that God feels for his children, etc.

I think too many people assume that Wright lambasted his congregation week after week with incendiary stuff, because they only saw the two or three sermons where he did that.

I also think that extrapolating too much from what Wright said, and assuming that Obama must, deep down, agree with him, is a dubious exercise of logic.

- Allen



To: greenspirit who wrote (108287)4/11/2009 7:16:31 AM
From: JeffA  Respond to of 541544
 
Dang Michael did we just agree?