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To: Barnabus who wrote (9128)	10/27/1997 2:33:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker	Respond to of 39621

Thank you for understanding that, Jack, as I am more right wing than I should be for my own good, and sometimes almost feel like I'm in a sci-fi movie dealing with androids when I hear the "I don't believe all this stuff about the environment, they're just manipulating facts for..." and I really don't know what Christians feel "enviromentalist" are manipulating facts for. I don't care what people think they're manipulating facts for. The fact is there are so few songbirds left they cannot possibly propagate themselves for more than a couple of breeding seasons. The frog and toad population is now statistically estimated to be down 40 to 90 (90!!!!!!!!!!) over the entire earth. I haven't heard locust singing in years. I miss them all. I can remember when I was little the evenings were a symphony of beautiful sounds, and always those dear little toad noises, and the singing of the locust. Just beautiful. THen about ten years ago I noticed I wasn't hearing very much. Now I hear practically nothing, and when I do I am horrified to realize it is one or two creatures making a small sound. Don't get me going on that. But yes, I love God's creation. Whatever He wanted to accomplish by way of pleasing those made in His image, I can only say that it worked with me. And I have a few friends I can say the same thing about. The rest of people? I don't think they really notice very much. It's like it's all there, but it's kept from them. Perhaps the mystery of the creation is God revealed. I think it is a gift, given by God to those who will take it. Maybe. I don't know. I sure did understand your worrying about the little chicken. ANyway I hope I understood what I had to read so fast. That you were worried about a little chick. And yes, God uses the animals to teach us parables, or illustrate the meaning of parables. I believe totally and completely that part of heaven is getting all of our animals back. There's more than enough room in heaven for all those creatures there was never room for here. He does keep track of the sparrows that fall to the ground, I think, except it is beyond my ability to comprehend such a matter.

To: Barnabus who wrote (9128)	10/27/1997 11:08:00 AM
From: Jane Hafker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Jack, I just noticed your statement about the Jerusalem zoo. Yes! Now you get the concept. Anyway, I had a very saintly friend, who truely was, but she and I were the opposite ends of the political structure and had never changed too much as a result of our conversions. I was still leaning right, she was leaning left, being a Berkeley graduate, and working wiht some inner city thing in Los Angeles. We were kind of arguing about it in very subdued tones, me nicely telling her why she was wrong, and her nicely telling me I should be down in the city working with inner city programs, you know, that kind of thing, and I told her that I would prefer to work in an inner city zoo, because I loved animals and could hardly cope with human behavior anymore, and said something about, in fact, that I was going to ask God for a separate planet all to myself where I could live with lions and tigers and bears and have all the animals I wanted. She just smiled and said...."I'll come visit you." And we never argued again. It was just a nice little moment.