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To: Brumar89 who wrote (2475)4/16/2009 12:39:12 AM
From: LLCF1 Recommendation  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
<Not really. I recall you simply stating your opinion and making a claim. >

Well, go read... you clearly have selective hearing (reading)... do you know ANYTHING of the history of the Catholic church?

<Would you like me to talk about the bogus peppered moth study thats still in textbooks?>

Sure, tell us about that particular conspiracy will you? THAT should be interesting.

<How about the Haeckel's distorted drawings of embryos that have only been removed from textbooks recently? Or his recapitulation theory, also once in textbooks.>

Well, YES these are EXACTLY what I want you to get to. Because it shows your complete ignorance of both Haeckel's AND those teaching his (these topics) ideas motivation and superimposes it over YOUR motivations... and presumably others like you completely ignorant of the facts!!

In fact Haeckel was an ARTIST among his many incredible talents:

en.wikipedia.org

His theorie(s) are still an integral part of teh "evo-devo" portion of evolutionary theory. Morons like the LCD church and other ignorant hate groups point to him all the time as showing as "incorrect"... or "wrong" the idea that developement supports evolution. IN FACT NOTHING OF THE SORT HAS OCCURED. IN FACT, DEVELOPEMENTAL BIOLOGY SUPPORTS EVOLUTION MORE THAN EVER.... just not quite as Haeckel had guessed.

Just FYI.. Haekel is STILL and SHOULD BE in all the more advanced text books. He's safe despite the hatemongers. :))

<Would you like me to ask why militant atheist and non-scientist Michael Shermer writes a column in Scientific American?>

I dunno, ask the editors... Scientific AMerican is NOT a peer reviewed journal... it's just a popular magazine.

<Why the spokesmen for science mount crusades against intelligent design but gladly work hand in hand with the New Atheists like Dennett, Dawkins, Sam Harris, Hitchens, only one of whom even has a science background?>

First of all, why would you care... intelligent design is EVOLUTION!! LOL, you guys are funny. All you care about is showing something isn't correct, even if it's replaced by ANOTHER thing which also deliveres a direct broadside you your belief!! LOL

Second of all "science" doesnt "crusade", most scientists go about their work paying little attention to all that. I don't know about ID... haven't read it... if you want to discuss it, let us know what it is, I'd luv to know more about it. Personally, the name "intelliegent design" makes a LOT OF SENSE to me... but I dont' know what the "theory" ID is all about.

<Or why another non-scientist, Daniel Dennett, was a key figure at the 2005 World Summit on Evolution? >

A KEY figure? Was he even on the program?

usfq.edu.ec

If you knew anything about those on the program, you would know that no one was paying much attention to someone like him. BTW, the ONLY reason he is ANYTHING is because of ignorant people that deny evolution.

<Like many, you are likely to have been mislead by bogus historical ideas that were made up a little more than a century ago>

Guy... this stuff is chronicled... check out the protestant split... Jeeez, you really do need to read some history. AS for Draper and all, who cares... again, you quote a scientist dubunking the scientist you don't like...

You're sort of losing it here... I'm not AGAINST religion... nor are the VAST MAJORITY OF SCIENTISTS!!! So it's YOU that seems to have this big problem with the way things are... not me or Scientists in general.

I go to Catholic CHurch every week... in fact I'm well aware of the Churches additions to science, very early on in fact. FURTHER to that, I'll close with pointing out that the very nomenclature used in evolutionary science EVERY DAY was done by Linneaus and all sorts of early botanists and scientists were Catholics

oce.catholic.com

and even involved in the church... I'm sure you're aware Mendel was a monk?!?

DAK



To: Brumar89 who wrote (2475)4/16/2009 8:42:12 AM
From: TigerPaw  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 69300
 
still in textbooks?

Texas textbooks still teach that evolution is still not accepted by science. "being in a textbook" is a weak authority, and proof by authority is a weak argument.